Then why, if these connections: causal, morphological, formal, 'may be taken as 
a basis for signs'...then why is this considered a 'pre-semiotic world'?

My view is that morphology = semiosis; therefore, any process that 'makes 
forms' is a semiosic process - and that goes on within the physico-chemical as 
well as biological realms.

The major, vital, difference in the biological realm is that the 
process-of-evolution or adaptation, moved within the organisms, such that 
adaptation became 'self-organized'. This enabled an explosion not merely of 
diversity but also exponentially increase the rate-of-adaptation and change. 
The function? To enable the world to 'hold onto matter'.

Edwina

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frederik Stjernfelt 
  To: Peirce List ; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:21 PM
  Subject: [biosemiotics:6915] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Being Trivially A Sign


  Dear Jon, Tom, lists 
  Well spoken Jon, I think this also covers my position. 
  The pre-semiotic world is full of connections, causal, morphological, formal, 
which may be taken, in the semiotic processes of biology, as a basis for signs.
  Best
  F


  Den 19/09/2014 kl. 20.10 skrev Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net>
  :


    Joseph, Tom, List,

    Any thing at all (an embedding context, a moment in time, an active 
situation, or whatever it may be) that serves to connect an index with its 
object may do that without regard to its possible service as a sign in some 
other connection.

    So it's not so much the existential nexus or point of connection being 
trivially a sign as its contemplated status as a sign being irrelevant to its 
function as a connector.

    Regards,

    Jon

    Tom Gollier wrote:

      Joseph, List:
      I haven't seen an answer to your inquiry, but I, like you, would be
      interested in what would be trivial and non-trivial when it comes to an
      index.
      Tom

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