Well, Jon, maybe there is something 'mystical' in it, in that the mediative
transformative Relation of the semiosic triad best operates in a different
temporal and spatial mode than that of the 'existential' Object and
Interpretant. Thirdness - whether 3-3 or 3-2 or 3-1 is a powerful relation.
But bologna???!!! Now wait a minute. I'm just taking a break from making
dill pickles and sauerkraut (much better, I assure you, than from the
store)....and I won't have something as crass as bologna in my home. No way.
The point of the function is that it reduces/filters/rejects/whatever...the
potentialities of the Dynamic and Immediate Object..to ONE Interpretant. Not
necessarily the truthful Interpretant (we all know how
observers-at-an-accident each observe something different)...but..to one
rather than many 'I saw what I saw'.
But in this filtering...it transforms..according to the generals of the
Interpreting Agent (which is where Stan's Constructivism probably comes
in)...So, as Peirce said..we don't/can't view the objective world directly.
Best
Edwina
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Awbrey" <[email protected]>
To: "Edwina Taborsky" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Sungchul Ji" <[email protected]>; "Peirce List"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Semiotic Theory Of Information -- Discussion
OK, IC, it's not really a function, it's more like mystical bologna ...
Jon
Edwina Taborsky wrote:
Jon - Nope, I disagree. You are reducing the nature of a Function to a
linear path. My point is that F or S (in your triad) is not a step in a
path nor is it a cumulative action but is instead a transformative
action. The semiosic 'f' is not empty but 'filled' - with generals, with
universals and thus exerts a transformative agency on X...to result in a
Y that is not identical with X (unless it's a pure process).
And most certainly this is not behaviouristic stimulus-response -
because, again, that 'F' is a mediative and transformative
function....something that the O-S-I pattern doesn't clearly show.
Edwina
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