At 12:17 PM 1/31/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
Howard,
So you don't believe that the real world, "nature" as it is beyond
our models, places any constraints on abduction? or on any kind of inference?
HP: Obviously nature puts constraints on our models, but that is far
from determining our models, which is the issue. Abduction is just
constrained (informed) guessing. That is not determinism. We can make
different models of the same reality.
Howard
gary f.
From: Howard Pattee [mailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: 31-Jan-15 11:06 AM
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Subject: [biosemiotics:8056] Re: Triadic Relations
At 09:44 AM 1/31/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
What you [John] are saying is essentially that we may not use this
[Peirce's] language, nor may we use the term determine to signify
the relation between objects in the real world (including generals)
and the propositions about them, the signs which express "fact". So
by your lights, we can't say that a sign is determined by its object
to determine an interpretant even if we can say that a dropped rock
is determined by gravitation to fall in a specific direction.
HP: I think John is correct. I can say that according to the
(symbolically expressed) law of gravity this law predicts that a
rock is determined to fall. I cannot correctly say that the above
expression of the law of gravity is determined. Like all creative
models it was discovered using abduction.
Howard
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