Hi all,


Just a friendly public service announcement:



If your interest is in genotype/phenotype mapping (i.e., relation between
mutation and change in organism), talk of atoms, molecules and valences is
considered bizarre.



I say this as a biologist and because talk of such things is antithetical
to what’s expected of a good hypothesis (a good relation between C and A in
abduction).  They’re too far apart.  Even talking of mutations in
individual genes and consequences on phenotype is problematic for many
situations.



Best,
Jerry R

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Jerry LR Chandler <
[email protected]> wrote:

> List, Kirsti:
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:15 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> But let me first ask you some questions, to help me formulate my answer.
>
> 1) You concentrate on chemical symbols. - How about chemical reactions?
>
>
> JLRC:  My interest for several decades has been on the
> antecedent-consequent relation between a mutation and the change in an
> organism. How does it happen?
> Chemical symbols and chemical reactions (as biochemical processes) are
> necessary connections between the antecedent and the consequence.
> That being said, the pre-percept of all chemical symbols, today, is the
> chemical table of elements.  All chemical processes, reactions, diffusion,
> bindings, transfers are expressed in terms of the components (nuclei and
> electrons) of the table of elements as ordinal and cardinal numbers.  The
> chemical elements stand in strict one-to-one correspondence with the
> natural integers.  This relationship gives closure on the relationship
> between matter and the sub-atomic components of matter (but not the
> sub-sub-atomic components of particle physics.)  *The perplex number
> system suffers one form of physical closure under this constraint.  Valence
> opens the closure by material addition of atoms to form molecules. * The
> logic of chemistry consists of propositional functions on atomic numbers
> with valence relations that creates new identities from atomic identities,
> constrained by physical laws.  Thus, CSP’s logical doctrine of individuals.
>
>
> 2) Is geometry left out of the ways of posing the problem?
>
>
> Geometry enters into chemical thought secondarily as a consequence of
> arrangements of parts of the whole. The primary root of relations is the
> chemical table of elements and valences and other forms of interaction.
> That is, by secondary, I mean that one must have at least a pair of nodes
> to have a distance.
> And three nodes for an angle.  The concept of a graph node pre-supposes
> chemical particles.
>
> Note that QM assumes that geometric relations exist among the parts of the
> whole of an atom and assign angles to relations to between orbitals on the
> basis of electrical relations between nuclei and electrons.  Chemists
> measure angles between x-ray diffraction patterns and relate these to
> angles between atoms in crystals.  At the material level of molecules the
> languages of chemistry, physics and mathematics use a common terminology
> but the meanings of the terms vary with the discipline.
>
> The diagrammatic logic of chemistry is COMPOSED from relations among
> ordinal and cardinal numbers as counts of electrons and nuclei.  The
> diagrams can be interpreted by various physical measurements.
>
> In terms of handedness, note that the left and right hand forms have
> exactly the physical properties with respect to mass, electrical particles,
> bond structures and other physical attributes. The mirror images of the
> pair of optical isomers (handedness) is not predicted by physics laws per
> se.  The specific arrangement discovered by Pastuer requires an arrangement
> of at least 5 separate and distinct “radicals” in a pattern such that the
> mirror images differ. (Today, the physical origin of optical rotation of
> polarized light is attributed to the rotation of the electrical field
> vector of a light ray by interaction with the five different “radicals”.)
>
> In short, the logic of physics and the logic of chemistry start with
> different pre-suppositions with regard to the nature of matter. Different
> symbolic antecedents results in different symbolic consequences. Hence, the
> different meta-languages of the two disciplines.  In “Primary Logic”, M.
> Malatesta (1997), GraceWings,  derives the distinctions in terms of the
> historical development of differences of logical notations.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerry
>
>
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