Peircers, I ran across this amusing and ever-timely exchange while reviewing and archiving some old discussions:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061014000954/http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-September/000845.html Context: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/User:Jon_Awbrey/Philosophical_Notes#DIEP._Note_5 http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/User:Jon_Awbrey/Philosophical_Notes#DIEP._Discussion_Note_1 Regards, Jon On 11/23/2016 1:23 AM, Jon Awbrey wrote:
Gary, List, In my mind the connection between Peirce and Democracy has long revolved about the concept of representation. Representation in its semiotic sense has to do with signs that represent pragmatic objects to agents and communities of interpretation. Representation in its political sense has to do with forms of government that address the “res publica”, the public concern, through elected representatives who represent, hopefully, the good will and the best information of the public at large in their stations at the rudders of the ship of state. Here the twin senses of representation converge on the common root meaning of the words “cybernetics” and “government”. I know I've written a lot about this over the years but weeks of watching “The Death of a Nation” on TV have me too exhausted to say any more on the subject. I did happen on a recent blog post that seems to fit here: Theory and Therapy of Representations • 1 https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/03/13/theory-and-therapy-of-representations-%e2%80%a2-1/ Statistics were originally the data that a ship of state needed for stationkeeping and staying on course. The Founders of the United States, like the Cybernauts of the Enlightenment they were, engineered a ship of state with checks and ballasts and error-controlled feedbacks to achieve the bicameral purpose of representing both reality and the will of the people. And Max Weber understood that a state's accounting systems were intended as representations of realities that its crew and passengers must observe or perish. The question for today is — What are the forces that distort our representations of what's observed, what's expected, and what's intended? Regards, Jon
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