John, Jon, List,
I have not fully understood the example wit Mary and the camera (in Hamburg it is very late now), but I think, that it would be good to replace the concept of "linguistic turn", which is nominalistic, with a kind of "social turn", see the other thread by Jon, about inquiry being dependent on social communication. This was just a guess, I have not understood the difference between obligatory and optional, sorry, I will try, but not now, I go to sleep.
Best,
Helmut
08. Mai 2017 um 21:56 Uhr
Von: "John F Sowa" <s...@bestweb.net>
Von: "John F Sowa" <s...@bestweb.net>
On 5/8/2017 10:40 AM, Jon Awbrey wrote:
> The question then is whether we keep or lose information in passing
> from a triadic relation to the collection of its dyadic projections.
Linguists use the term 'obligatory'. For example:
Obligatory: "Mary gave Bill a camera."
Optional: "Mary saw Bill with a camera at the party."
In the first sentence 'gave' has three obligatory participants.
If you omit one, its absence can be noticed or inferred:
"Everyone gave Bill a present for his birthday. Mary gave a camera."
In the second sentence, 'saw' has an obligatory object,
but "with a camera" and "at the party" are optional adjuncts.
John
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> The question then is whether we keep or lose information in passing
> from a triadic relation to the collection of its dyadic projections.
Linguists use the term 'obligatory'. For example:
Obligatory: "Mary gave Bill a camera."
Optional: "Mary saw Bill with a camera at the party."
In the first sentence 'gave' has three obligatory participants.
If you omit one, its absence can be noticed or inferred:
"Everyone gave Bill a present for his birthday. Mary gave a camera."
In the second sentence, 'saw' has an obligatory object,
but "with a camera" and "at the party" are optional adjuncts.
John
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