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I think that Cathy's leaving this list, and her critique of it
[Cartesian, Platonic] should not be overlooked.
Edwina
On Wed 16/06/21 10:32 AM , g...@gnusystems.ca sent:
Jon AS, list,
I’m looking forward to the part of our slow read that delves into
Peirce’s classification of sciences, as I think that will explain
what André means by saying that phaneroscopists are
“pre-truthists.” But you’re right, some of the ideas floated in
the other thread show what happens when people try to fit phaneroscopy
(or the universal categories) into a preconceived framework such as a
semiotic theory. For instance, one result is a confusion of Firstness
with iconicity.
The pragmatic relationships among phaneroscopy, mathematics, logic
and semeiotic are actually quite complex and sometimes recursive, as
I hope will become clear as we take a closer look at Peirce’s texts
on the subject. For today I’d just like to share a paragraph from
André De Tienne’s 1993 paper on “Peirce’s Definitions of the
Phaneron”:
[[ Our awareness of a phaneron is always total and puts it into our
“Immediate and Complete possession” (MS 645:3, 1909). The most
important feature is the immediacy, the directness, with which one is
aware of the phaneron. The appearance and the mind are conflated,
which means that there is nothing to mediate between the two: there
is no intervening sign. We are put facie ad faciem before the very
phaneron itself, Peirce says (MS 645:5). Direct awareness is a
face-to-face encounter, which is the same as saying that that which
appears to a mind is not represented. A seeming is not a
representation, at least not in the first place, and thus a phaneron
never conveys any cognitive information. Direct awareness is
therefore not to be confounded with cognitive intuition, which is a
faculty whose existence Peirce denies. It follows, then, that the
mode of manifestation of a phaneron must be in some essential respect
quite different from that of a sign.] (De Tienne 1993, 282) ]
The “direct awareness” at the heart of phaneroscopy requires its
observations to be pre-theoretical and pre-logical (and a fortiori,
pre-truth!). But as Peirce said, it takes a ““great effort not to
be influenced” by one’s habitual preconceptions (especially if one
believes that all awareness is semiotic, i.e. mediated). This is
exactly the kind of opinion that one has to set aside in order to
develop a well-grounded conception of semiosis is in the first place.
Gary f.
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On Behalf Of Jon Alan Schmidt
Sent: 15-Jun-21 12:17
Gary F., List:
I agree that the last line on this slide is especially important,
but several recent posts have exhibited evidence of the mistake
described in the one right above it. In fact, at times I myself have
surely been guilty of jumping too quickly from phaneroscopy into
semeiotic. The problem is that if we focus exclusively on
representation and mediation, which are paradigmatic manifestations
of 3ns, then we effectively skip right over 1ns as quality and 2ns as
reaction. Moreover, Peirce makes it very clear that phaneroscopy is an
activity in which every inquirer must engage.
CSP: Understand me well. My appeal is to observation,--observation
that each of you must make for himself. (CP 5.52, EP 2:154, 1903)
CSP: There is nothing quite so directly open to observation as
phanerons; and since I shall have no need of referring to any but
those which (or the like of which) are perfectly familiar to
everybody, every reader can control the accuracy of what I am going
to say about them. Indeed, he must actually repeat my observations
and experiments for himself, or else I shall more utterly fail to
convey my meaning than if I were to discourse of effects of chromatic
decoration to a man congenitally blind. ...
The reader, upon his side, must repeat the author's observations for
himself, and decide from his own observations whether the author's
account of the appearances is correct or not. (CP 1.286-287, 1904)
Thanks,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [1] - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:10 AM wrote:
Continuing our slow read, here is the next slide of André De
Tienne’s slideshow posted on the Peirce Edition Project (iupui.edu)
[4] site. (You will notice André’s characteristic sense of humor
here, but the last line should be taken quite seriously.)
Text:
“Phaneroscopy”? What a strange word! Can it possibly mean
anything?
Is it really a science? How come I have never heard of it before?
Can I get a Ph.D. in phaneroscopy? In what university?
Are phaneroscopists well paid? Is their job useful and interesting?
Does it help save lives?
Some say that Peirce did everything that needed to be done in
phaneroscopy, and that everything else is semiotics. Is that right?
Is it true that phaneroscopists never assert anything true and yet
never lie? Are they post-truthists? [No! They are pre-truthists!]
Links:
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