Ben, Steven, & All ...
I may have missed a few posts but I don't understand the fuss about indices.
The types of signs not in one-to-one correspondence with the types of objects.
You can refer to the same object by means of a pronoun or some other index --
for example, "Looky there!", "Voila!", or "I don't know what it is, but there
it goes again" -- or you can refer to it by means of a noun, or some figure of
speech with iconic properties. It is simply a matter of convenience in certain
cases that we use an index or icon when a more definitive symbol might take a
lot
of work to fashion.
Regards,
Jon
Steven Ericsson-Zenith wrote:
Ben and I appear to be speaking across each other and, possibly, agreeing fiercely.
Recall that in the 1906 dialectic Peirce is drawing a distinction between the wider usage of "Category" at the time, i.e., Aristotle's Categories considered by "you" in the dialog, and saying that he prefers to call these "Predicaments." Having made this distinction he then speaks about the indices that are his categories.
As I said earlier, the index in this case does not point to the elements of the category but the
category itself. "There is Firstness" as opposed to "x is a first." The
confusion may be that Ben thinks I am saying that a category is some set of indices to its members.
That is not the case, a category stands alone and we can point to it (index). Icons are the
selection mechanisms of properties of classes, not indices.
Predicaments are higher order, assertions about assertions, predicates of predicates, I prefer to
say "predicated predicates" or "assertions about assertions" which is more
generally understood today.
Being as careful as he is, I see no evidence to cause us to suppose that the
categories that Peirce attributes to himself in 1906 are different than those
he identifies as early as 1866.
With respect,
Steven
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