Ben and list: As regards the question of which of the three images of the triangle of boxes in the manuscript material is the one which was actually relied upon by the editors of the Collected Papers for the image of it that appears at CP 2.264, it is reasonably certain that it is the second one, i.e. the one from MS page 540.17, that was used. The passage in the CP that begins at 2.233 and ends at 2.272 is derived from MS pages 540.2 through 540.23. (If there is any further question about the accuracy of Hartshorne and Weiss's transcription of Peirce's document, let me know what passage you have in mind and I can check it against the original Peirce MS and make a copy of that page of the MS and post it, too, if that seems desirable or necessary.)
That seems to me to settle the matter of the origin of the Roman numerals: it is an artifact of the editorial work of Hartshorne and Weiss. In addition to what Ben says below, there is also what is said in the scribbled note at the bottom of page MS 540.17 towards the left bottom corner, which is by some later editor, who is saying that the rationale for the Roman numerals is to be found in the footnotes to CP 2.235 and 2.243, where Hartshorne and Weiss are giving their interpretation of the modal principles underlying the tenfold classification.. It may be more legible in the copy I have than in the copy I distributed. To be exact, it reads as follows: "[See [235] and [243] for explanation of the roman numerals]" So it must be by some later editor, who is referring to what Hartshorne and Weiss did as editors of the CP. I remarked earlier in this discussion that I found a marginal note to myself in my copy of the CP, written many years ago when I was working with this material with some intensity, that I thought Hartshorne and Weiss were making some sort of mistake in their account of what Peirce is saying. I have not yet attempted to find out why I thought this is so, but I will try to do that now to see if there is anything in that.. Joe Ransdell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Udell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" <peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: 1st image of triangle of boxes (MS799.2) Looking at all three triangles, I get to feeling that it's unlikely that Pierce, having included no numbers in one triangle, would then in the other two triangles throw numbers in like afterthoughts and, in both triangles, change them, and begin and finish the numbers so that they looked a bit scattered and visually sloppy -- when he has written the sign class names with some care. Especially the MS540-17 triangle. I had noticed in the smaller graphic image of MS540-17 that the lettering looked careful, with serifs -- I thought it might even be medieval style. But in fact it was the bolding which Peirce did, which gave a medieval lookto some of the lettering when seen in the smaller, less-easy-to-read graphic image . I keep wanting to crack a joke here about Peirce being "not a profligate bolder" but showing here that "he was clearly not inexperienced at it ." Anyway, great work, Joe! Thanks for these images of Peirce's own writing. Best, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Udell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" <peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: 1st image of triangle of boxes (MS799.2) Image came through beautifully! Look carefully at the MS799.2 triangle of boxes and you can that the numbers are change from an earlier set of numbers. I originally thought that the little earlier numeral "8" was an extra numeral "3" CURRENT: 1 ~ 5 ~ 8 ~ 10 ~ 2 ~ 6 ~ 9 ~~ 3 ~ 7 ~~~ 4 EARLIER: 1 ~ 2 ~ 3 ~ 4 ~ 5 ~ 6 ~ 7 ~~ 8 ~ 9 ~~~ 10 Best, Ben --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com