Arnold Shepperson wrote:
Jean-Marc, Patrick
Patrick has a point in that Peirce's categories are such that in representation the higher-order presupposes the lower (is that the way to use `presuppose, by the way?). Jean-Marc equally has a point in noting that Peirce became a `Three-Category Realist' in his later thinking. Both points seem to highlight the role of transitivity in Peirce's thought, and perhaps the more solid sources for understanding this may be found in his mathematical writings, I would guess. Also, the Logic Notebook perhaps has more pertinent material than the CP, the editorial dismemebrment of which is well enough known. Cheers Arnold Shepperson --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi, I don't think there's any contradiction. semiosis being an inferential process that "reconstructs" the forms of reality, a third can be created by a combination of a dyad with a monad. A second will evolve into a Third. This will be an "internal" third or degenerate third, a third by construction --call it what you like. but a third anyway.

the only forms that are directly experienced from reality are the Seconds -- with which we experience the "clash" to use a Peirce expression. Thirds are constructed by inference. Firsts are embedded in Seconds.

the phenomenological approach which consists in studying how forms can be combined together have the advantage that there is no need to resort to teleology to explain how these forms (First, Second, Thirds) "can be seen to emerge" from semiosis.

PS: this is an interesting discussion but I'm off the list for a while...

Regards
/JM


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