Patrick wrote:
However, for us to believe that Firsts, Seconds and Thirds actually "exist", beyond their being mere transitory events in an ongoing semiosic process, would be fallibilistic in Peirce's terms, or a "Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness" in Whitehead's terms.

Jean-Marc responded:
Not at all.
Peirce was a "three-category realist", acknowledging the reality fo Firsts, Seconds and Thirds early on. What you call "Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness" is just another word for "nominalism" in that context. Peirce was not a nominalist.

Dear Patrick, Jean-Marc,  Folks--

I have a bit of trouble keeping track of the similarities and differences among the notions of true, real and existent as Peirce uses them.

I am especially unclear about the the application of the term real to his category of Firstness. Are firsts real but non existent? Seems to me the notion of real qualities (as opposed to illusory ones) only has meaning in the context of qualities coupled with secondness as they are embodied in objects.

In any case, what I'm doing here is asking a question and would love for someone to attempt to sort through how the terms real, existent and true are related.

Best wishes
Jim Piat


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