>>Max writes: >If you think the state is the executive committee of the 
>>bourgeoisie, than you are a public choice theorist too.<

Brad sighs:

>Marx did not write in the _Manifesto_ that the state is the executive 
>committee of the bourgeoisie.
>
>He wrote that the executive of the modern state is a committee for 
>managing the affairs of the bourgeoisie--suggesting that the 
>democratically-elected legislature of the modern state is something else.

It is clear that the democratically-elected legislature in most countries 
is more representative of the people than is the executive branch, which is 
more likely to be beholden to the bourgeoisie. However, this depends on how 
well non-bourgeois forces are organized and class-conscious. If the working 
class is atomized and considers itself as "middle class" (only a slightly 
exaggerated picture of the US), then the legislature by-and-large 
represents capital, given the latter''s massive monetary resources for 
influencing politics. Politics is basically about debates within the 
bourgeoisie (Boy George Bush vs. McCain vs. Gore/Bradley). On the other 
hand, if the working class is well organized and class conscious (as in 
Chile in 1970), not only may the legislature but the executive may be 
subordinated to non-bourgeois forces.

The problem, of course, is that in the Chilean case, the repressive 
component of the state (the armed forces) stepped in to suppressed the 
democratic component -- aided and abetted by the US and US-based 
multinational corporations -- so that capitalism and the international 
relationships of domination could be restored to their "normal" status. In 
the situation of Chile in 1973, either capitalism was going to be preserved 
by military force or there had to be a socialist break from capitalism.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/~JDevine "Segui 
il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people 
talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.

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