Ellen Frank wrote: >Well, the fat boys can be soaked via taxes and other forms of expropriation >or the rich can be by-passed altogether, by creating alternative forms >of social wealth. These are not mutually exclusive. That's what I don't get - how can you bypass the rich. If money and capital are social relations, and I'm orthodox enough to think they are - the foundational relationships of capitalist society, in fact - then how do you bypass them? It's not like they're not going to notice. And since money represents real resources, or a claim on real resources, how can you change monetary relations without changing social relations? I think the characteristic feature of monetary crankery is trying to finesse these problems. Doug
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