>>> Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/April/1997 11:44pm >>> >Social Democracy, as we know it, creates a bigger problem. .. >Any time anybody tries to propose single payer now, the opponent >merely have to point to the Clinton plan. Agree with the sentiment about social democracy, but how does it follow that single-payer is related in any way to managed care? I recall Hillary working with the Jackson Hole group -- five megainsurance firms -- to do the opposite of a national insurance agency, in the process explicitly ignoring a million signatures in early '94. And I recall Vicente Navarro's argument that making the demand for single-payer and a national health service more generally is a potentially revolutionary, not a reformist demand; since the US capitalist class can (technically, financially, administratively) concede it but will not do so on grounds that it would substantially diminish managerial control of workers (dependent upon health insurance at firm-level). Ciao!