>>> Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/19/00 05:05PM >>>
>CB: So many here are holier than them Soviets.
I've never sent a bunch of troops to suppress the beginnings of democracy
in Czechoslovakia.
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CB: Democracy "began" when there when the Nazis were removed by the Red Army.
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In fact, I've never killed _anyone_. So I guess that I'm
holier than the Soviets, though not necessarily holier than thou.
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CB: All the Soviets killed someone ? Even the art commisars all killed someone ?
Where's the evidence ? I bet the vast majority of Soviets either did not kill anyone
or those who killed someone did so in heroic self-defense of the country in the wars.
I think you have an exaggerated notion of Soviets who killed.
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BTW, it's wrong to blame "the Soviets." After all, it was only the top
leadership of the state-party bureaucracy that made the decisions to roll
the tanks in 1968.
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CB: Rolling the tanks into Czech in 1968 does not make you holier than them.
There are crimes of commission and crimes of commission. Those who have done nothing
are not innocent.
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The people were not to blame, since they didn't choose
that leadership.
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CB: None of them chose that leadership ? Rather overstated.
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(As Nathan might argue, we in the US are _more_
responsible for crimes like this (e.g., the recent terror-bombing of
Serbia) because we have a bit more say about who are our leaders are than
the Soviets did. Of course, Nathan would disagree about the parenthetical
example I chose.)
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CB: Speak for yourself. I don't have more of a say about who my leaders are than the
Soviets did. They limit my "choices" to all I people I don't want. That means I have
ZERO say.
That you think you have more of a choice means the U.S. bourgeoisie have fooled you.
You buy that the U.S. election system is somewhat still democratic. You've bought the
bourgeois propaganda that this is the Free World. False.
