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> >I don't mind if we demonize Milosevic, but I would like that 
> >demonization to be
> >spread equitably.  Tujman was equally evil, yet the U.S. embraced him.
> 
> Really? The National Security Council staff when I was in the 
> government wished daily for his overthrow, with their wishes checked 
> only by the (vain) hope that Tudjman and Milosevic could be made to 
> cancel each other out, leaving the Bosnians free to stay alive and 
> keep their homes...
> 
> 
> Brad DeLong
> 

I have tried to keep my temper and not respond to Brad's totally 
misleading and erroneous posts for several days -- or at least to 
respond only with the most mild and reproving response.  But 
enough is enough.  This is disgusting nonsense.  He has posted 
so much racist nonsense in the last couple of days that if one 
replaced Serb/ Milosevic references with Jew/Barak references, he 
might be ... well I will leave it at that.  

De Long's views are not what are important.  What is important are 
the facts of what are going on.  What he writes above, and in some 
of his other posts, is clearly nonsense.  I do not have time to 
respond in detail to all his misinformation though I will if he persists 
in disinformation.  The following, as a start, is a selection from 
Talylors eyewitness account of what really happened in Croatia.

    On September 9, 1993, the Croatian forces unleashed a massive 
    bombardment on a Serbian-held enclave known as the Medak 
    Pocket.  This region, designated a United Nations Protected 
    Area, was occupied by a Canadian infantry battalion.  Following 
    the artillery fire, the Croats launched a pincer-like attack that 
    effectively eliminated the Serbian defenders from the ridgelines.  
    Along the valley floor, Croat tank columns quickly captured 
    four Serb-held villages.  Over the next three days, in an effort to 
    fulfil their “protection” mandate, Canadian soldiers from the 
    Second Battalion Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry 
    engaged the Croatian special forces units in a number of 
    firefights....  Through this stoic display of determined 
    resistance, the commander of the PPCLI ... eventually convinced 
    the Croatian commander to withdraw his forces.  Before pulling 
    out, the Croats massacred all of the remaining Serb inhabitants.  
    Ordered not to interfere by U.N. Headquarters in Zagreb ... the 
    only recourse possible for the PPCLI was to catalogue the 
    evidence they  had collected [including photographic evidence 
    of the massacre], and to seek official U.N. indictments against 
    the Croat commanders as war criminals.... The general who had 
    planned and executed the Croatian attack was, in fact, an 
    Albanian Kosovar named Agim Ceku....

    On August 3, 1995, in the same sector ... the Croats launched 
    Operation Storm.  This time the Canadian peacekeepers did not 
    resist....  Once again under the direction of General Agim Ceku, 
    the Croatian Army unleashed a devastating artillery 
    bombardment.  This time, however, it was German mercenaries 
    in Croatian uniform who spearheaded the attack, and NATO 
    fighter jets that provided them with tactical airstrikes.

    The Serb defenders ... didn’t have a chance -- tactically or 
    strategically.  The moment the artillery bombardment began, 
    Serb civilians -- aware of the massacre conducted by Ceku’s 
    troops in the Medak -- began to flee into Bosnia en masse. Their 
    soldiers were right behind them.

    Nearly 250,000 Serbs were thus ‘ethnically cleansed’ from the 
    Krajina in advance of the Croat onslaught.  Those who chose to 
    remain – or were too tardy in their flight – paid the price.  As 
    Ceku’s men swept through the Krajina, all evidence of Serb 
    habitation was systematically destroyed.  Civilians were 
    executed; livestock and pets slaughtered; houses burned; and 
    wells poisoned.  When thousands of fleeing Serbs sought 
    refuge in the Krajina capital of Knin, General Ceku’s artillery 
    gunners deliberately shelled the city.  According to U.N. 
    reports, over 500 civilians were killed or wounded in the 
    bombardment – at a time when Knin was devoid of military 
    targets.  In other words, the shelling was an intentional act of 
    terror against unarmed civilians, a war crime.

    Two senior Canadian officials serving with the U.N. were 
    present in Knin at the time of the attack.... Both men submitted 
    detailed complaints to the U.N. War Crimes Tribunal in an effort 
    to indict not only the commanders (including Ceku, who was 
    responsible for the artillery), but also Croatian President Franjo 
    Tudjman....

    Since the U.S. had covertly aided the Croats in Operation Storm 
    (through the provision of arms, training, advisors, satellite 
    intelligence and airpower), the massive Serbian tragedy went 
    virtually unreported in North America....

    [Canadian peacekeepers had become very uneasy, after their 
    experience in Croatia and Bosnia with  NATO’s invasion of 
    Yugoslavia.] They had seen firsthand the covert U.S. 
    involvement in building up the Muslim and Croat forces....They 
    were not alone. Medak Pocket veteran Matt Stopford had 
    begun to openly question NATO’s support of the Kosovo 
    Liberation Army as far back as February 1999.

    As ultimatums were bringing the Alliance ever closer to war 
    with Yugoslavia, a new player quietly entered the scene.  In U.S. 
    newspapers it was announced as a positive development that a 
    top Croatian general had resigned from his post to take over 
    command of the KLA guerrilla forces.  Agim Ceku was going 
    home – as a hero and Canada’s ally.

Ceku took over command of the KLA in February 1999.  Top Canadian 
officers wanted him indicted for war crimes committed in Croatia in 1993 
and 1995. [pp. 12-19]

By the way, Ceku is the hero of Brad de Long's Albanian terrorists.  
Ughh!  Please don't give me the s**t that the US administration opposed 
Croatian fascism in the form of Mr. Tudjman since it was the Americans 
that provided the airpower and intelligence for the mudering and ethnic 
cleansing of the Serbian minority in Croatia.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba and 
American Studies,
University of Ljulbjana,
Slovenia

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