At 03:38 AM 01/09/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm curious - define "working class".

For Marxists and sympathizers, the working class is not defined by income, 
as Carrol indicates. (The income definition is inherently fuzzy, since one 
never knows where to draw the line.) The "working class" represents a 
position in the societal structure (a relation of production), referring to 
those who must work for others (the capitalists) in order to survive 
because they lack ownership of the means of production or even significant 
means of subsistence. That is, they can only buy consumer goods by selling 
their labor-time (or, more accurately, labor-power) to those who own the 
factories, offices, money, etc.

This represents a location in the social structure that is growing over 
time relative to the total population. People move in and out of this 
location, but mostly the faces remain the same.

other locations: capitalists -- own the means of production; petty 
producers -- self-employed. Some people have mixed positions, as with those 
of the "middle layers" who don't own the business and have to sell their 
labor-power, but boss people around on the job.

(BTW, as pen-lers can tell, I learned from E.O. Wright's early work on class.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine

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