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From:                   Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                [PEN-L:21439] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy
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This whole discussion about social democracy and marxist 
economics disturbs me (disgusts me?) on two levels.  First, on the 
practical level, if it weren't for SD I would never have had the chance 
to arrive above the level of the working class.  My grand parents 
were miners, my parents were able to become school teachers, 
and I and my wife could become professionals --all on the basis of 
social democratic party politics. ( My grandparents and parents 
were both active in labour/social democratic politcal parties 
politics.)  so the kind of sh.. that we get from the rigid marxists is 
not something I have much respect for.  My grandparents and 
parents were deeply involved with the Winnipeg General Strike and 
the basic strikes and social strugles for human, racial and political 
rights during the 1930s through the 1960s so this kind of academic 
shit I don't want to hear about.

I have done research in Sweden, Britain, Yugoslavia, Australia, and 
eastern Europe (and published in "acceptable" academic (including 
Marxist economic journals such as Monthly Review and Canadian 
Dimension.) The level of discussion of soci     al democratic 
economics on this list is appalling.  I would not accept it as 
acceptable at a second year  university level.  If we are so ignorant 
of social democratic theory and practice we would be better off not 
to advertise the fact.  The same should be said of institutional 
theory from Berles and Meanes, Galbraith, Darity and all the other 
institutionalists.

Pen-L should not parade its ignorance of alternative economic 
paradigms.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
> Michael Perelman wrote:
> 
> >Another Swedish question.  Doesn't Sweden have one of the most
> >concentrated industrial structures in the world?
> 
> Yup, think it does. The Wallenberg family's Investor trust controls 
> some enormous portion of Swedish industry. Such structures are good 
> for social democracy; dispersed stockowner structures like the U.S.'s 
> are its enemy.
> 
> Doug
> 

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