value vs. price by Ian Murray 05 February 2002 17:09 UTC
========================= Ok but surely we can understand Capital systemically without value conepts? I was introduced to systems theory before I read KM and it was easy to see the consonances but value theory didn't do a friggin' thing for me. Apparently I'm not alone, so maybe it's just a matter of taste? ^^^^^^ CB: But of course Marx's theory on value was invented as a way of understanding capitalism before system's theory was. Of course, if you learn system's theory first, and it has substituted other words to correspond to all the concepts in Marx's value theory, it might seem like there is no need for "value theory" . But that is just a sort of plagerism resulting in ...bingo !.. anti-Marxism, or more Justin's undemonstrated ( merely asserted without proof) "mooting" out of Marxism's value theory The important issue is that Marx's theory has more than value theory in it, and the revolutionary aspects of Marx's overall approach can get lost easier if some "system's " theory abstracts a part Marx's theory to use. This is a widespread technique in the vast institutions of anti-Marxist social science. Anthropology has a number of materialist schools that clearly have their logical roots in Marxism, but since it would be politically problematic in bourgeois academe to claim Marx as their daddy, new terminologies are invented to present the same or very similar concepts as those in Marxism, Engels books, etc.
