Devine, James wrote:

>this is a common mistake, i.e., that of assigning some sort of 
>normative meaning to value or surplus-value, when these are 
>normative only from the perspective of commodity-producing society 
>or capitalism (respectively). The attachment of normative meaning to 
>surplus-value occurs when people think of productive labor (i.e., 
>labor that produces surplus-value) as a good thing aside from being 
>good for capitalists.

You're right about how Marx used the concept, but many Marxists have 
taken the productive/nonproductive distinction very seriously. It 
completely distorted Soviet planning priorities, for example - it was 
much more important to produce machine tools than consumer goods 
(especially frivolous things like tampons).

Doug

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