I began with the distance to suggest that it should be a component of the
rent.  Doug's statistics on delays were useful since the increasing
commutes lead to more congestion, causing more delays.

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 08:15:14AM -0700, Eugene Coyle wrote:
> Doesn't this exchange confuse the increase in delay with total travel time?  I. e.
> ignores an increase in distance traveled?
> 
> Gene Coyle
> 
> Bill Lear wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, July 4, 2002 at 14:06:16 (-0700) Michael Perelman writes:
> > >Help me out here Doug.  Usually, I would be inclined to believe Census figures
> > >over something from Texas, but
> > >
> > >Texas Transportation Institute. 2002. 2002 Urban Mobility Study
> > >http://mobility.tamu.edu/ums/
> > >"Congestion is growing in areas of every size.  The 75 urban areas
> > >in this report range from New York City down to those with 100,000
> > >population.  All of the size categories show more severe congestion
> > >that lasts a longer period of time and affects more of the
> > >transportation network in 2000 than in 1982.  The average annual
> > >delay per peak road traveler climbed from 16 hours in 1982 to 62
> > >hours in 2000.  And delay over the same period more than quadrupled
> > >in areas with less than 1 million people."
> > >
> > >Is there anybody who sees something other than rapid congestion?  Or
> > >am I blinded by living in California.
> >
> > Note that what Doug claims is not necessarily inconsistent with this.
> > Improvement in public transportation may very well entail a
> > deterioration in private transportation.  The numbers above, for 250
> > days a year (workweek travel) show delay increase from 3.8 minutes per
> > day to 14.8 minutes per day.  This doesn't seem like an accurate
> > picture of "congestion", if I've interpreted it correctly.
> >
> > I think what would be useful are figures showing the relative amounts
> > spent on private versus public transportation.  I think the ratios are
> > usually about 4:1 or more.  In Texas, I imagine they are much higher.
> > In NYC, perhaps they approach parity or better?
> >
> > Bill
> 

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