>Michael Perelman wrote:
>
>>Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?
>
>Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?
>
>Doug

I know this is an onerous burden to place on pen-l'ers, but you should 
search for ways to impart some kind of concrete information whenever you 
post. In much of the discussion here, we get conclusions without the 
supporting facts. This has been true of the Vandana Shiva thread as well as 
the liberalism/expertise thread. Unfortunately, in the latter case the 
rules of participation would almost exclude facts, etc. because the context 
is preeminently philosophical. When the discussion revolves around the 
individual versus society, etc., you are entering the vaporous realm of 
political philosophy. I would as soon argue against liberalism as I would 
against freedom or reason. On the other hand, when it comes to agriculture, 
I can demonstrate how the Green Revolution undermines the long-term goal of 
food production through the use of relevant facts on soil fertility, etc.

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