I used to offer that course. I taught it once to a class of economics students who 
wanted to be told what to think all the time. So I've been discouraged.
 
BTW, according to Draper, Marx and Engels thought that utopian literature could be an 
important part of working-class self-education and discussion. They just didn't see it 
as a good guide to tactics, strategy, abnd history.
Jim

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        Of course, saying that you are for socialism conjures up the Cold War
        vision of the Soviet Union.  Maybe, you do not even use the term socialism
        in opening up a dialogue.  Jim Devine seems to offer a course that uses
        science-fiction to create a vision of a socialist society.
        
        
        On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 06:26:21PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
        >
        > Saying you're "for socialism" in this context sounds more than a a
        > little like a wish that people should just be nicer to each other. It
        > has almost no substantive content. And at the risk of alienating the
        > True Leninists(TM) here, the Soviet model has almost no appeal to a
        > significant population anywhere aside from Russian pensioners. I sure
        > don't have the answers, but I do recognize that this is a problem.
        >
        > Doug
        
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        Michael Perelman
        Economics Department
        California State University
        Chico, CA 95929
        
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