----- Original Message -----
From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] More on anti-corruption


The physics formula F = M.a is "circular," because each term is defined by
the other two. The concept of a "point" in geometry is also circular.
These examples (and many others) suggest that there is nothing wrong with
circular definitions, as long as one is clear about the nature of that
circularity.

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There are virtuous and vicious circles in philosophy of science,
epistemology etc. You are on the edge of a vicious circle regarding the
relation between corruption and bourgeois right.

Walter Gallie, anyone?





of course, "corruption" is normative in the sense that it violates
(official) bourgeois norms. But I didn't know that _pen-l's_ discussion
was normative, i.e., that someone was proposing that corruption was _the_
problem to be opposed or something like that.

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The discussion was normative from the get go even as no one suggested that
corruption was *the* problem.

I'm done.

Ian

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