Like Michael Y., I know, respect, and personally like both Doug and Lou. I have not asked Doug to unsub because, as Michael Y. noted, Doug's jabs seem relatively mild, but many of us know where they are aimed. I do not want the list to lose either party. I only want both to keep their personal animosity off list. Both have a great deal to offer.
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:49:33AM -0800, MICHAEL YATES wrote: > I have been on this mailing list, on and off, for about 15 years, long before I knew > Louis and Doug. I respect both of them. They offer us a lot of good commentary and > analysis. And they point us to interesting things to read and think about. I have > had drinks with both of them. Louis had let me use his apartment on several > occasions,;even before we met, he let me do this. Doug has had me on his radio show > a couple of times, for which I am grateful. > > Having said this, I don't know why Doug has to keep making snide comments aimed at > Louis on pen-l, knowing that they will be provocative. After all, he has his own > list, and he can attack Louis and anyone else he cares to to his heart's content. > Similarly Louis can do the same to Doug on his list. > > Doug has a kind of passive-aggressive way of attacking Louis (with plausible > deniability). And generally he seems to get away with it. Louis always seems to get > publicly chastised by the moderator while Doug almost never does, unless it is by > way of the moderator chastising Louis. > > BTW, Louis has aimed some sharp barbs my way in the past. > > Michael Yates > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Louis Proyect > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Crisis at the peak > > > I have been on this mailing list now for 3 years at least. In that > entire time, I have not once directed a comment at Henwood. I am even > careful to refrain from attacking those that he identifies with like > Michael Hardt. If I criticize the Nation Magazine, I don't do so with > the attention of hurting Henwood's tender feelings. Since this is the > number one voice of the left in the USA, I would be remiss not to answer > its attacks on the section of the left I identify with. Over the past > couple of weeks, Henwood has now directed 3 snide comments in my > direction. I shouldn't have to put up with this crap. Why don't you ask > him to unsub himself for a couple of weeks like you asked me to? > > Michael Perelman wrote: > > Come on. Doug should not have started this and you should just let it > > pass. > > > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:19:00PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > > > >>Another bullshit provocation from the Living Marxist. > >> > >>Doug Henwood wrote: > >> > >>>Michael Perelman wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I think that we have heard enough about whether or not we face the > >>>>prospect of scarcity of petrochemicals. > >>> > >>> > >>>Translation: this is a topic that annoys certain volatile > >>>participants, so best steer clear of it. > >>> > >>>. > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >>The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org > > > > > > -- > > Michael Perelman > > Economics Department > > California State University > > Chico, CA 95929 > > > > Tel. 530-898-5321 > > E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu > > > > . > > > > > -- > > The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
