Explaining a joke always ruins the joke, but am I right to interpret your 
comment as the assumption that libertarians like imposing pain on the economy?  
Austerians and all that?

I would say somewhat the opposite.  There is a libertine wing of the 
libertarian movement, which wing we can safely assume has a significant 
percentage of homosexuals and others with, shall we say, interesting views on 
sexuality.  And I don't doubt that those libertines would readily agree that 
their libertinism does explain, in part, their libertarian politics and 
economics.

David Shemano

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So does this mean your view is that that Libertarians are into Bondage and S & 
M?

Gene


On May 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, David Shemano wrote:

> I am far removed from academia, but isn't LGBT studies an accepted part of 
> the leftish canon?  And isn't it inherent to the relevance of such studies 
> that the fact that one is LGBT is in turn relevant to what one writes or 
> thinks regarding literature, politics, etc.?  So if so, would it not be 
> consistent with LGBT studies to try and connect Keynes' economic thinking to 
> his  homosexuality?
> 
> David Shemano
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Devine
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:55 AM
> To: Pen-l
> Subject: [Pen-l] the Ferguson files
> 
> from SLATE:
> Niall Ferguson in 1995: Keynes' Homosexuality Caused His Views on the 
> Treaty of Versailles
> 
> By Matthew Yglesias
> 
> Posted Tuesday, May 7, 2013, at 10:44 AM
> 
> Niall Ferguson has already apologized for saying over the weekend that John 
> Maynard Keynes' homosexuality was at the root of his views on fiscal policy, 
> but Brad DeLong has recovered a remarkable 1995 Spectator article in which 
> Ferguson alleges that Keynes' views on the Treaty of Versailles were also 
> caused by his homosexuality. In this case, Ferguson's view is less that 
> Keynes had a distinctive gay outlook on the issue, and more that a gay crush 
> on a German representative to the conference led him to adopt pro-German and 
> pro-inflation opinions.
> 
> The article's conclusion:
> 
>>> From 1919 onwards, for reasons which owed as much to emotion as economic 
>>> logic, he had repeatedly encouraged the Germans in their resistance to 
>>> Allied demands. He had heard and echoed their arguments at Versailles, 
>>> predicting currency depreciation, the dumping of German exports and the 
>>> westward march of Bolshevism as consequences of the treaty. He had shared 
>>> their dismay at the reparations total set in 1921, and predicted German 
>>> default from the outset. Even when he began to suspect that his friends 
>>> were exaggerating their fiscal difficulties, this only inclined him to egg 
>>> them on to a more confrontational strategy. Only when this ended in the 
>>> complete collapse of the currency did Keynes distance himself.
> 
>>> All this sheds revealing light on Keynes's later views on inflation. 
>>> Those who see Keynesianism as, at root, an inflationary doctrine 
>>> will not perhaps be surprised; just as those familiar with 
>>> Bloomsbury will appreciate why Keynes fell so hard for the 
>>> representative of an enemy power. Only those-like Robert 
>>> Skidelsky-who seek to rescue his reputation as a monetary theorist 
>>> may find Keynes's conduct less easy to account for. <<
> 
> I have not read The Economic Consequences of the Peace, but am somewhat 
> familiar with the general debates at the time. My view of the situation is 
> that the whole question of an "enemy power" is actually the crux of the 
> dispute here. Keynes, in keeping with general liberal sentiments at the time 
> and vindicated by history, took the view that it was foolish for France and 
> Britain to try to treat Germany as an enemy-to-be-crushed rather than a 
> partner-to-be-rehabilitated. The only possible consequence of crushing the 
> German economy would be to compel the Germans to overthrow the treaty and 
> thus start a new war.
> This is roughly what eventually happened, and obviously in the late-1940s the 
> Western allies took a different approach, which paid off. I don't know if any 
> key Truman administration advisors were seduced by sexy German conference 
> representatives. Perhaps someday we'll learn that was the real story of the 
> Marshall Plan, in which case I think we'd have to be thankful for the 
> emergence of a sentiment that could transcend petty nationalism.
> 
> --
> Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way 
> and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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