> Mike Ballard,
>
>
>
> In the capitalist division of labour, what is "productive" labour at the
> micro level is not necessarily  productive at the macro-level, since the
> labour that creates profit for its employer may not be a net addition to
> the
> total mass of new surplus value generated (because it does not create a net
> new addition to the stock of new commodities produced). All sorts of things
> are traded for profit, but just because that is so, does not automatically
> mean that new value comes out of it.
>
J,

So, within the gigantic division of labour in modern industrial
capitalism, there are a lot of workers employed who are not directly
engaged in say, putting the wheels on automobiles.  Instead, they are
engaged in making statistical reports and phone calls.  But, these
workers are a *necessary* part of the whole process of producing
surplus value through socially *necessary* labour time embodied in
automobiles for without them, the modern, industrial capitalist
manufacturing plants could not function.  My view is that Marx was
aware of this; but would still argue that office work for wages, being
a necessary function in the production of cars in a capitalist
economy, would be productive labour.  In fact, as Capital is/was
essentially based on the social relation embodied in the wage system,
all wage workers would be productive.  Another way to look at it would
be that capitalists don't hire unnecessary workers.

Thanks for your patient explanations,
Mike B)
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