I agree 100% that teachers shouldn't be fired for expressing their views in class, even if they're racists, even if they're KKK, even if they're Nazis. First Amendment, academic freedom, until death.
But: I think it's important to recognize that that might not be the entire story. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org [email protected] (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM, raghu <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Robert Naiman wrote: > >> Here's someone offering a different perspective on "free speech >> absolutism." I offer this as someone very sympathetic to free speech >> absolutism and very sympathetic to Greenwald in particular. But I think >> there's something to be said for having 2% skepticism here, leaving the >> door open to the possibility that free speech absolutism is not the whole >> story. >> > > > I am afraid I don't see the relevance. Can you explain more what you are > trying to say? > -raghu. > > > > > >> >> Greenwald’s Free Speech Absolutism and Twitter’s Foley Ban >> >> https://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/greenwalds-free-speech-absolutism-and-twitters-foley-ban/ >> >> >> Robert Naiman >> Policy Director >> Just Foreign Policy >> www.justforeignpolicy.org >> [email protected] >> (202) 448-2898 x1 >> >> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:14 AM, raghu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Carrol Cox tries to pass off his lack of reading comprehension as >>> profound insight. If he had actually bothered reading this discussion, he >>> would have known that the idea of the Princeton (and Yale and other) >>> protesters "standing with Missouri" is one that is disputed by exactly no >>> one. That idea was in fact the explicit starting point of this discussion. >>> >>> The real question is what exactly does it mean to "stand with Missouri"? >>> Is that unambiguously a good thing? >>> >>> If you want an intelligent take on this, try Corey Robin, not Carrol Cox: >>> http://coreyrobin.com/2015/11/21/what-we-owe-the-students-at-princeton/ >>> >>> TL;DR version: thanks to the Princeton protesters, we are talking about >>> Wilson's repulsive racism, and also about how such ideologies are deeply >>> embedded in Princeton's history. I think he gives the protesters too much >>> credit, but his piece is definitely worth reading. >>> -raghu. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Maxim Linchits <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I see that I've been ignorant, but there is so much to me than that >>>> little passage. I'll do work twice as hard to become more aware, and then >>>> I hope we can put this shameful episode behind us. Please understand and >>>> forgive me. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:30 PM >>>> To: 'Progressive Economics' <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Princeton protests: misplaced priorities? >>>> >>>> Maxim Linchits writes: >>>> >>>> Great find! It’s a perfect illustration of how American politics has >>>> become completely unhinged from reality. Liberal “anti-racism” is now >>>> essentially the struggle for political correctness, i.e. a war on symbols >>>> rather than substance. What other issues are they working on these days - >>>> writing angry letters in response some insensitive comments by Bill >>>> O’Reilly? Have they concluded their campaign to condemn Kanye West >>>> Halloween costumes? They need to save some of that outrage for real issues. >>>> With many people it seldom gets beyond “I can’t believe what I just heard, >>>> that’s so racist.” This is not a struggle against racism; it’s a struggle >>>> to save your own precious little ears and eyes. [clip] >>>> >>>> ======= >>>> >>>> Maxim writes out of sheer ignorance of how movements beging & grow. >>>> >>>> Every single one of the campus demonstrations, regardless of specific >>>> demands has had one and only one fundamental content: We are with you >>>> Missouri! >>>> >>>> Until you have grasped this you have nothing of interest to say about >>>> U.S. politics at this time. >>>> >>>> Carrol >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pen-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pen-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pen-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > >
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