1. That's not what I mean by saying that it's not the whole story. I mean that the students might be raising and giving life to legitimate issues, even if their demand that the instructor be fired is unjust.
2. How can you say that it's a free speech issue, and yet say that it wouldn't be a free speech issue if the person were a Nazi or a white supremacist? Either it's a First Amendment issue or it isn't, either it's a free speech issue or it isn't, either it's an issue of academic freedom or it isn't. If it is, then it doesn't matter what the political content is, right? If you wouldn't defend her if she were a Nazi or an open KKK admirer, then it's a slam dunk that what the students are doing is fair game. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org [email protected] (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:04 AM, raghu <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Robert Naiman wrote: > >> I agree 100% that teachers shouldn't be fired for expressing their views >> in class, even if they're racists, even if they're KKK, even if they're >> Nazis. First Amendment, academic freedom, until death. >> > > Actually, I wouldn't go that far at all. If this instructor at Kansas was > out there spouting white-supremacist theories or something like that, I'd > totally understand students demanding that she be disciplined or terminated. > > This is not about some abstract "free speech" principle; rather the merits > of the case simply don't support calls for this instructor's termination. > > > > But: I think it's important to recognize that that might not be the entire >> story. >> > > That's completely irrelevant. This instructor may very well be an awful > person, guilty of all kinds of misconduct and may very well deserve to be > fired. If so, let's see that case being made and we can have that > discussion. > > Right now the issue is a different one: should this instructor be fired > for the reasons these students want her to be fired? I think the answer to > that is clearly no. And the students behavior in this case is extremely > problematic. > -raghu. > > > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > >
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