On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Anthony D'Costa wrote:

> Name calling doesn't get anything done! Call a spade a spade phrend.
>


I do not endorse Naiman's outburst, but there is one thing about this
thread that bothers me.

Surely it is possible to accept that (a) the Scandinavian welfare system
has many racist and exclusionary elements, and (b) the same systems still
stand as living proof that socialialized health care and pension systems
are not a utopian fantasy and can and do work very well.

It seems to me that acknowledging (a) in no way negates (b). So I am
puzzled why anyone would use Scandinacian racism as an argument against
Bernie Sanders' welfare state policies..
-raghu.
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