A tree that was once considered a weed was found to
have cancer fighting properties.  But would the tree not be scarce under 
socialism?

Socialism might do a better job of protecting and enhancing the supply of 
trees, but
the trees are limited relative to human (as well as market) needs.

Much scarcity is market induced, but I don't think all.

The case for uncertainty being a product of markets seems more questionable.  
Markets
do create extra uncertainty, of course.  A socialist worker would not fear
unemployment -- at least in a rational socialist society.




On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:51:18AM -0800, Michael Nuwer wrote:
> Earlier this year Michael Lebowitz wrote the comment
> quoted below in relation to a discussion about new
> advances in decision-making under conditions of
> uncertainty. This paragraph is, to my mind, quite a
> jewel. In these few words I have found an important
> insight about a topic which I've thought about, but
> obviously, have not correctly understood.
>
> In the Grundrisse (and elsewhere) Marx points out that
> money and capital are historically specific; that
> these concept, or economic categories, do not have a
> natural existence. Perhaps the same can be said about
> uncertainty and incomplete information; that these
> concepts are also historically specific; that they are
> not "in nature." Marx taught me that capitalism
> creates its own scarcity; that scarcity is not an
> economic problem imposed by nature. Perhaps the same
> can also be said about uncertainty and incomplete
> information; capitalism also creates these, they are
> not economic problems imposed by nature. They are
> historically specific.
>
> Would anyone here have reading suggestions on this
> topic? I have much to learn (or re-lean).
>
> From: "michael a. lebowitz"
> Subject: Re: Depoliticisisng economics
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:41:37 -0400
>
> The point that immediately comes to mind ... though,
> is that the uncertainty in an atomistic world where
> people are separated by markets and have the incentive
> to hide their intentions (even if deigning to
> cooperate on occasion) is not the same as the
> uncertainty that would exist where there are social
> institutions being developed to facilitate the
> exchange of information and thus the reduction of
> uncertainty. Ie., if we are assuming the societies are
> the same except for the ownership of capital, it makes
> for a pretty unappealing conception of that better
> world. Now, perhaps this current literature on
> uncertainty (which I don't follow) helps to reveal the
> costs of an atomistic society but I suspect it would
> require a lot more than what people are doing-- ie., a
> conception of a counterfactual alternative (which is
> to say, the vision of a socialist society).
>
>
>
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