Grretings Economists,
On Jul 15, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Shane Mage wrote:

Yes, and the existence of God is well supported by observation
of the pile of crutches at Lourdes.

Doyle;
One can be skeptical of anything.  And that can be fruitful.  However,
a great deal of money is spent on astrophysics.  Are you saying we can
spend that on something else that would give us better understanding?

When I look at say a rock I don't know it's chemical composition.  I
have to take a hammer to it to shape it or do something with it besides
throw it or use it as a hammer.  In essence see a model of what I want
in the stone.  Is seeing that model the same thing as seeing the
crutches at Lourdes?  Remembering the definition of God as outside of
material reality.

This has been a central question human societies have grappled with for
thousands of years.  I would myself say there is 'nothing' outside of
material reality.  But my understanding of material reality depends
upon my 'seeing' in a rock things that a mere surface examination with
vision would not tell me.  Inobservables as it were.   The same with
economics.  The fruit of skepticism is to demonstrate that black holes
don't exist in a decisive manner.  I can with crutches at Lourdes
simply say something outside material reality is unknowable.  I can say
about anything in material reality I can 'know' that.  I would presume
the ontology of 'knowing' is at stake here.

Are we discussing knowables?  If we are then I could bring up the
economic aspects of that and possibly be of interest here.  If it is
just ordinary metaphysics of ontology well what is interesting to say
then?
Doyle

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