On Aug 8, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:

Empirically (I don't know what the causal grounds are) it seems
that the
u.s. public is obsessed with "making people pay."

You think it might have something to do with the Protestant tradition
and the prominence it gives the badass God of the Old Testament?
Jonathan Edwards had strong views on this matter:

<http://www.ccel.org/e/edwards/sermons/sinners.html>

The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a
spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is
dreadfully provoked: his wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks
upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the fire; he
is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in his sight; you are ten
thousand times more abominable in his eyes, than the most hateful
venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended him infinitely more
than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince; and yet it is nothing but
his hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment. It
is to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did not go to hell the
last night; that you was suffered to awake again in this world, after
you closed your eyes to sleep. And there is no other reason to be
given, why you have not dropped into hell since you arose in the
morning, but that God's hand has held you up. There is no other
reason to be given why you have not gone to hell, since you have sat
here in the house of God, provoking his pure eyes by your sinful
wicked manner of attending his solemn worship. Yea, there is nothing
else that is to be given as a reason why you do not this very moment
drop down into hell.

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