"You still have not answered the question. You still have not answered
the question. Israel must be wiped off the map. Why?"
"Well, don't be hasty sir," the president said. "I'm going to get to
that. I think that the Israeli government is a fabricated government."
"Fabricated" following the Holocaust, which he's said may also have
been fabricated.
Last December, Ahmadinejad said the Europeans had created a myth of
the Holocaust.
"What I did say was, if this is a reality, if this is real, where did
it take place?" Ahmadinejad replied.
"In Germany," Wallace said.
"Who — who caused this in Europe?" Ahmadinejad asked.
"In Europe. If I may … so …what you're suggesting — one moment — what
you're suggesting then, that Israel should be over in Germany because
that's where the holocaust took place?" Wallace asked.
"I'm not saying that, mind you," the president replied.
But he has said Israel could be moved to Europe, or even to the United
States but it shouldn't be in Palestine.
"Well, if an atrocity was committed in Germany or Europe for that
matter, why should the Palestinians answer for this?" the president
asked. "They had no role to play in this. Why on the pretext of the
Holocaust they have occupied Palestine? Millions of people have been
made refugees. Thousands of people to-date have been killed, sir.
Thousands of people have been put in prison. Well, at the very moment,
a great war is raging because of that."
"Look if you could — if you could keep your answers concise. Concise.
I beg you. We'll get more questions in," Wallace requested.
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... A classic example of what I had stated previously... Quantity (not
quality), size (not viability), more (and more & more & more). The
Western Industrialized Nations Disease. (WIND)
Iranian Leader Opens Up
Aug. 13, 2006(CBS) When Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaks out
candidly — as is his habit — he scares a lot of people. He has said more
than once that Israel should be wiped off the map, and that the
Holocaust is an overblown fairytale.
When correspondent Mike Wallace interviewed him in Tehran last week, it
became apparent that he sees the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah —
a militia Iran has long supported — as part of a larger battle between
the U.S. and a militant Islam for control of the Middle East.
"Very clearly, I will tell you that I fully oppose the behavior of the
British and the Americans," Ahmadinejad tells Wallace. "They are
providing state-of-the-art military hardware to the Zionists. And they
are throwing their full support behind Israel. We believe that this
threatens the future of all peoples, including the American and European
peoples. So we are asking why the American government is blindly
supporting this murderous regime."
Wallace tried to ask him about Hezbollah's use of missiles, rockets
furnished by Iran, but he wanted to talk about Israel's attacks with
American bombs.
"The laser-guided bombs that have been given to the Zionists and they're
targeting the shelter of defenseless children and women," the president
said.
"Who supports Hezbollah?" Wallace asked. "Who has given Hezbollah
hundreds of millions of dollars for years? Who has given Hezbollah
Iranian-made missiles and rockets that is making — that are making all
kinds …" he continued as he was interrupted.
"Are you the representative of the Zionist regime? Or a journalist?"
Ahmadinejad asked Wallace.
"I'm a journalist. I am a journalist," Wallace replied.
"This is not journalism, sir. Hezbollah is a popular organization in
Lebanon, and they are defending their land," the president said. "They
are defending their own houses. And, according to the charter of the
United Nations, every person has the right to defend his house.
"What I'm saying is that the killing of innocents is reprehensible. And
making this — the displacement of people and making them refugees,
again, is reprehensible,"
"Well, what has Hezbollah, though — wait a minute," Wallace asked.
"Hezbollah is displacing and damaging and making bleed all kinds of
people. You know that."
"Please tell me, are the Lebanese inside the occupied lands right now or
is it the other way around, that the Zionist troops are in Lebanese
territory?" Ahmadinejad replied. "Lebanon is defending its independence.
We are not at all happy with war. That is why on the first day we
condemned these recent — conflict. And we asked for an immediate cease
fire."
Ahmadinejad told Wallace the United Nations Security Council has not
passed an effective ceasefire resolution because the Security Council is
in America's pocket.
"Tell, the reason is, that the United Nations Security Council is there
to safeguard the interests of the British and the Americans. They are
not there to provide security. It's very clear," the president said.
"The UNSC, the United Nations Security Council, is there to protect the
interests of the United States and the British. That's what you say?"
Wallace asked.
"It has been created to help with peace and justice. But we see that it
is not responding to atrocities. If we search for the root causes we see
the hand of the British and the Americans," Ahmadinejad said. "People,
innocent people are being killed. … And houses are being destroyed.
Where is the UNSC? Also, the draft resolution which has been circulated
only serves the interests of one party. And it is not just."
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