On Monday, February 26, 2007 at 11:40:12 (-0500) ravi writes:
>Michael Perelman wrote:
>> You are out of line.  You can disagree with a penner, but don't make
>> it personal.
>>
>
>In the spirit of open and friendly debate, I want to present a few
>points that Bill might find interesting, if he chooses to indulge in it:
>
>a) In the sense in which Yoshie used it (at least as I read it)
>"whiteness" is not a _skin condition_ but an attitude and a form of
>identification (which can and should be altered, unlike one's skin).
>
>b) Racism is a form of discrimination (and admittedly also attitude)
>which has real consequences for those who are at the receiving end.
>
>c) The advantages that white people enjoy and the racism they perpetuate
>(if and when they do) is a result of their "whiteness" and (generally
>speaking) nothing more than that.
>
>d) Such labelling as "whiteness" is no more racist than a claim that
>gender activism/analysis that critiques the "patriarchy" is "reverse
>misogyny[?]", or that the general use of the term "Brahmin" (to denote
>an elite class) is reverse discrimination against Brahmins.
>
>To tie this into my earlier thoughts on Indian American "upwardly mobile
>petit-borgeois" (as Hari has helpfully pointed out in response to my
>earlier post), I will provide an example: the original Brahmins (and
>their modern equivalents) now transplanted to the USA are, in my
>criticism, often seeking exactly that identity: "whiteness".

Fine.

And you agree that the statement "blackness makes people stupid and
morally degenerate" is not the DUMBEST way in the world to communicate
such a set of ideas to people?  How in the world can the left hope to
change anything with such a litter of language?  What utter contempt
this shows!


Bill

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