Couple of things... first I don't think the accumulation of US Treasury
notes or bills overseas has anything to do with the savings rate of the
US public.  I also don't think that the accumulation of US dollars or
govt securities by foreign countries indicates the decline of US
capitalism, a threat to the US ruling class, or the decay of US
manufacturing capability.

I  do think US borrowing, US govt borrowing has everything to do with
tax revenues and expenditures, like ah... let's see US was running a
budget surplus prior to 2001, was considering pulling, actually may have
in fact pulled, the 30 yr bond from the markets by advanced redemptions,
all of which I think was based on Clinton's tax increases, and the
increased profits of the 92-99 period.  And then... well overproduction
and Boy George resurfaced, and it was grab as grab can.

I think most of the ruling class "concern" over deficits, trade and
current account, is really a holdover from the obsolete mercantilism
that stands behind every capitalist exchanger.


----- Original Message -----
From: "raghu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] uncle sam's banker


> On 8/9/07, sartesian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And the greater damage would be done to whom?  The US ruling class,
or the
> > Chinese?  Where would the impact be more likely to trigger social
upheaval,
> > the bugaboo of capitalists, emerging and arthritic, everywhere,
called class
> > struggle, Shanghai or Long Beach?
> >
>
> I think the correct answer is both. If the Chinese really liquidate
> even a quarter of their dollar portfolio I can't see how a complete
> world-wide financial collapse far more severe than the 1998 Asian
> crisis, can be avoided. Which is why there seems to be a consensus
> that it will never happen. The Chinese can bark but they cannot bite.
>
> It seems like a risky tactic though. They may just end up
> strengthening the Lou Dobbs faction.
> -raghu.
>

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