Adam Turoff wrote:
>
> No worries. These BSD guys are onto something...
> http://www.daemonnews.org/200010/dadvocate.html
Thanks for the great link. This is a really interesting article. In
particular, I found these points about FreeBSD to be reminiscient of
concerns some have raised about p5p:
- The core team appeared to be not doing enough. Problems reported
to the core team seemed to disappear into a black hole.
- The core team appeared to be doing too much, meddling in affairs
which didn't concern them.
- Some people accused the core team of cronyism, that they were
applying two sets of rules, depending on the people involved.
- Some people also pointed to individual members of core who hadn't
been heard of for a surprisingly long period of time. This
``dead wood'', they said, was a problem.
Not being directly involved with p5p, I don't feel worthy of rendering
judgment as these relate to p5p. However, I have seen these problems
elsewhere, and it's very easy to fall prey to them, even if one tries
really hard not to. There's tons of implicit sociopolitical forces in
the works constantly.
These points were followed by a great paragraph that starts with this:
The obvious first question is, of course: ``What are the duties of
the core team?''. Well, guess what. They were never defined. So it's
not possible to say objectively whether the core team is doing a good
job or not.
I agree with Ziggy, there's lots of stuff being throw around on
perl6-meta currently, and I think lots of it boils down to making p6
processes well-defined. It smacks of bureacracy, but having a list of
policies and procedures for p6 development posted on a website which
everyone must abide by may help fix alot of concerns. And I was actually
interested by Dave Grove's point about C++ and real strings, and the
voting process the C++ standards committee uses to determine stuff. I'm
not sure that much pain and suffering is right for Perl, but one has to
admit that C++ is a very stable language, like it or not.
If you haven't had a chance to read the above link that Ziggy posted,
I'd strongly recommend it. Some variant of it might work really well for
at least part of p6.
-Nate
