So what we need to do is get a person from Windows , Linux , Mac
to work on a Tk interface then those three people need to collaborate
so to make sure that all three are the same as far as functionality and
overall look... then we need to use the PAR::Packer and pp to then make
a (Windows linux Mac exe) and other extensions for the other Operating systems
Where if we click the exe with out a script then it goes to a command line PDL
interface
I will make some examples for Windows and Linux as I dont have a Mac Yet ...
they will be command line only interfaces but I will send them as a attachment
in a
Tar to the Perldl list so every can download and see if they have any bugs
unless there is a better way to get them to be tested
Please Let me know !!
Cheers !
--Mark R baker
________________________________
From: David Mertens <[email protected]>
To: Matthew Kenworthy <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Perldl] Let us Kvetch! (was: PDL book checking)
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Matthew Kenworthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
*my personal take, and this thread does have "kvetch" in the subject :) *
>
>
>> Alien is the conceptual namespace given to managing (or at least querying)
>>
>
>> local::lib provides a simple cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Mac, probably
>>
>
>> This is terrific, but what changed over the last couple of years in PDL that
>> made this possible?
>
>One click installations with 2D plotting for all platforms makes all
>the difference. It means that I can point collaborators to an install
>package, and get them using my scripts ASAP. My collaborators don't
>care at all about Alien, local::lib, CPAN or dependencies. They want
>something that works without thinking about the installation or
>support.
>
Here is a version of one-click that I would *love* to see, and which should
happen, I think and hope, by this fall:
cpan Task::PDL::David
If I can point an interested user to a one click install of PDL and it
>works, then we have a new user of PDL. As soon as they hit one
>roadblock, they're *gone*. It doesn't matter if it was a non-PDL
>dependency fail, they assume it's a PDL problem and they walk away.
>When you can seamlessly install SciPy with one click but your build of
>PDL requires knowledge of CPAN to build it, you immediately lose out
>on the mindshare.
>
Sounds like a GUI interface to CPAN would be really helpful. Perhaps we can
write something using Prima so it's cross-platform?
Unless there is a driving reason why they need to
>install/configure/maintain some package, people will go with what is
>(a) run by their friends/associates, so they have someone to ask them
>for local help, and (b) something that has a huge online support
>community with immediate response time.
>
>My current view of the PDL community is that there is a group of about
>100-200 people who use and run PDL code, with 10 to 20 people in
>active voice on the mailing lists, and a significant fraction of these
>people have used PDL for > 5 years. If anyone knows what the current
>email distribution size is, it would be interesting to know.
>
>Matt
>
It turns out that if you are registered on the mailing list, you can get these
details. The Perldl (users) mailing list has 175 non-digested subscribers and
29 digested subscribers. The Porters list has 51 non-digested subscribers and 6
digested subscribers. The number of people who *use* PDL could be far bigger,
for all we know. Also, there are about four regulars on IRC (and two regular
bots).
I argue that one-click installers are only easy to implement if the underlying
library is well structured. This may take some one-time effort for SciPDL, but
if that's your only complaint, I would be happy to help out with that. The
first step would be to put instructions on the wiki for how SciPDL is
currently built. We can only enhance the build process once it's known.
David
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