Mark,

You go for the command-line option, I'll work on packaging my gui repl. But
do NOT send the resulting files to the mailing lists. They will be huge.
Create a project on sourceforge.net or github.com and post links to the
list instead.

I'm looking forward to working this!

David
On Jan 24, 2012 4:47 AM, "MARK BAKER" <[email protected]> wrote:

> So what we need to do is get a person from Windows , Linux , Mac
> to work on a  Tk interface then those three people need to collaborate
> so to make sure that all three are the same as far as functionality and
> overall look...  then we need to use the PAR::Packer and pp to then make
> a (Windows linux Mac exe) and other extensions for the other Operating
> systems
>
> Where if we click the exe with out a script then it goes to a command line
> PDL interface
> I will make some examples for Windows and Linux as I dont have a Mac Yet
> ...
>
> they will be command line only interfaces but I will send them as a
> attachment in a
> Tar to the Perldl list so every can download and see if they have any bugs
> unless there is a better way to get them to be tested
> Please Let me know !!
>
> Cheers !
>
> --Mark R baker
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* David Mertens <[email protected]>
> *To:* Matthew Kenworthy <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 7:04 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Perldl] Let us Kvetch! (was: PDL book checking)
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Matthew Kenworthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> *my personal take, and this thread does have "kvetch" in the subject :) *
>
> > Alien is the conceptual namespace given to managing (or at least
> querying)
> >
> > local::lib provides a simple cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Mac,
> probably
> >
> > This is terrific, but what changed over the last couple of years in PDL
> that
> > made this possible?
>
> One click installations with 2D plotting for all platforms makes all
> the difference. It means that I can point collaborators to an install
> package, and get them using my scripts ASAP. My collaborators don't
> care at all about Alien, local::lib, CPAN or dependencies. They want
> something that works without thinking about the installation or
> support.
>
>
> Here is a version of one-click that I would *love* to see, and which
> should happen, I think and hope, by this fall:
>
> cpan Task::PDL::David
>
> If I can point an interested user to a one click install of PDL and it
> works, then we have a new user of PDL. As soon as they hit one
> roadblock, they're *gone*. It doesn't matter if it was a non-PDL
> dependency fail, they assume it's a PDL problem and they walk away.
> When you can seamlessly install SciPy with one click but your build of
> PDL requires knowledge of CPAN to build it, you immediately lose out
> on the mindshare.
>
>
> Sounds like a GUI interface to CPAN would be really helpful. Perhaps we
> can write something using Prima so it's cross-platform?
>
>
> Unless there is a driving reason why they need to
> install/configure/maintain some package, people will go with what is
> (a) run by their friends/associates, so they have someone to ask them
> for local help, and (b) something that has a huge online support
> community with immediate response time.
>
> My current view of the PDL community is that there is a group of about
> 100-200 people who use and run PDL code, with 10 to 20 people in
> active voice on the mailing lists, and a significant fraction of these
> people have used PDL for > 5 years. If anyone knows what the current
> email distribution size is, it would be interesting to know.
>
> Matt
>
>
> It turns out that if you are registered on the mailing list, you can get
> these details. The Perldl (users) mailing list has 175 non-digested
> subscribers and 29 digested subscribers. The Porters list has 51
> non-digested subscribers and 6 digested subscribers. The number of people
> who *use* PDL could be far bigger, for all we know. Also, there are about
> four regulars on IRC (and two regular bots).
>
> I argue that one-click installers are only easy to implement if the
> underlying library is well structured. This may take some one-time effort
> for SciPDL, but if that's your only complaint, I would be happy to help out
> with that. The first step would be to put instructions on the wiki for how
> SciPDL is currently built. We can only enhance the build process once it's
> known.
>
> David
>
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