Yes, because it is *not* totally cross-platform and I'll let you guess which OS it doesn't work on (the problem is IO::Pty support).
The unix-only development bias for perl modules is a real drag in trying to get win32 perl stuff working. It is seeming more and more that the only fix is going to be doing our own implementation. :-( I know it is possible because IPython works on win32.... --Chris On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Joel Berger <[email protected]> wrote: > Any reason not to use showmetheshell and Plack to make a local > in-browser pdl2 shell? I could mock that up in just a few hours and it > would be totally cross-platform. > > Joel > > https://github.com/vti/showmetheshell > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Chris Marshall <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I would like to see a GUI REPL that could tie into >> the existing pdl2 or perldl shells. Basically, we >> would need something that would support Term::ReadLine >> and connect to STDIN, STDOUT, and STDERR and would >> work with win32 from the start. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:25 AM, David Mertens <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Mark, >>> >>> You go for the command-line option, I'll work on packaging my gui repl. But >>> do NOT send the resulting files to the mailing lists. They will be huge. >>> Create a project on sourceforge.net or github.com and post links to the list >>> instead. >>> >>> I'm looking forward to working this! >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2012 4:47 AM, "MARK BAKER" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> So what we need to do is get a person from Windows , Linux , Mac >>>> to work on a Tk interface then those three people need to collaborate >>>> so to make sure that all three are the same as far as functionality and >>>> overall look... then we need to use the PAR::Packer and pp to then make >>>> a (Windows linux Mac exe) and other extensions for the other Operating >>>> systems >>>> >>>> Where if we click the exe with out a script then it goes to a command line >>>> PDL interface >>>> I will make some examples for Windows and Linux as I dont have a Mac Yet >>>> ... >>>> >>>> they will be command line only interfaces but I will send them as a >>>> attachment in a >>>> Tar to the Perldl list so every can download and see if they have any bugs >>>> unless there is a better way to get them to be tested >>>> Please Let me know !! >>>> >>>> Cheers ! >>>> >>>> --Mark R baker >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: David Mertens <[email protected]> >>>> To: Matthew Kenworthy <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:04 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Perldl] Let us Kvetch! (was: PDL book checking) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Matthew Kenworthy >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> *my personal take, and this thread does have "kvetch" in the subject :) * >>>> >>>> > Alien is the conceptual namespace given to managing (or at least >>>> > querying) >>>> > >>>> > local::lib provides a simple cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Mac, >>>> > probably >>>> > >>>> > This is terrific, but what changed over the last couple of years in PDL >>>> > that >>>> > made this possible? >>>> >>>> One click installations with 2D plotting for all platforms makes all >>>> the difference. It means that I can point collaborators to an install >>>> package, and get them using my scripts ASAP. My collaborators don't >>>> care at all about Alien, local::lib, CPAN or dependencies. They want >>>> something that works without thinking about the installation or >>>> support. >>>> >>>> >>>> Here is a version of one-click that I would *love* to see, and which >>>> should happen, I think and hope, by this fall: >>>> >>>> cpan Task::PDL::David >>>> >>>> If I can point an interested user to a one click install of PDL and it >>>> works, then we have a new user of PDL. As soon as they hit one >>>> roadblock, they're *gone*. It doesn't matter if it was a non-PDL >>>> dependency fail, they assume it's a PDL problem and they walk away. >>>> When you can seamlessly install SciPy with one click but your build of >>>> PDL requires knowledge of CPAN to build it, you immediately lose out >>>> on the mindshare. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like a GUI interface to CPAN would be really helpful. Perhaps we >>>> can write something using Prima so it's cross-platform? >>>> >>>> >>>> Unless there is a driving reason why they need to >>>> install/configure/maintain some package, people will go with what is >>>> (a) run by their friends/associates, so they have someone to ask them >>>> for local help, and (b) something that has a huge online support >>>> community with immediate response time. >>>> >>>> My current view of the PDL community is that there is a group of about >>>> 100-200 people who use and run PDL code, with 10 to 20 people in >>>> active voice on the mailing lists, and a significant fraction of these >>>> people have used PDL for > 5 years. If anyone knows what the current >>>> email distribution size is, it would be interesting to know. >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> It turns out that if you are registered on the mailing list, you can get >>>> these details. The Perldl (users) mailing list has 175 non-digested >>>> subscribers and 29 digested subscribers. The Porters list has 51 >>>> non-digested subscribers and 6 digested subscribers. The number of people >>>> who *use* PDL could be far bigger, for all we know. Also, there are about >>>> four regulars on IRC (and two regular bots). >>>> >>>> I argue that one-click installers are only easy to implement if the >>>> underlying library is well structured. This may take some one-time effort >>>> for SciPDL, but if that's your only complaint, I would be happy to help out >>>> with that. The first step would be to put instructions on the wiki for how >>>> SciPDL is currently built. We can only enhance the build process once it's >>>> known. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent via my carrier pigeon. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Perldl mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Perldl mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Perldl mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl _______________________________________________ Perldl mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl
