Are you offering "white hat" protections? I've always wanted to try that.

Joel

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:33 AM, MARK BAKER <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> 1.  Is there a good link to Prima ????
>
> 2. Im developing a website right now that has
>     a tracking system for the support Questions.
>     so that each question has number attached to it
>    and a database that holds them until there closed
>    and even hold the closed ones for 12 months...
>
> 3. as far as spam goes there is no email per say
>    that a spammer can attack just the sql database
>    unless they get the the cloud administrator
>    password and user name  ????
>
> 4. I will send the site out so that it can be tested
>     so our hackers out there can do there worst ...
>     and I can make some improvements to it
>
> Cheers
>
> --Mark R Baker
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Marshall <[email protected]>
> To: David Mertens <[email protected]>
> Cc: MARK BAKER <[email protected]>; ""[email protected]""
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:33 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Perldl] Getting What Is Missing
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:17 AM, David Mertens <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Mark -
>>
>> Sorry for not responding sooner to these ideas. They've been rolling
>> around
>> in my head for the last couple of days, so, here goes.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:22 AM, MARK BAKER <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have gotten the the core PDL functionallity to work with the PP
>>> PAR::packer
>>
>>
>> This is a very interesting concept. I can't recall if you've mentioned
>> this
>> in the past, but I have not given it much thought until now.
>
> It has been mentioned in list discussion.  It is a possible
> solution to the Devel::REPL install problem of too many
> CPAN modules and something always goes wrong before
> success...
>
>>> with the one exception of the TriD.pm which throws some errors at me...
>>
>> Yes, TriD will be *very* difficult to get working with PAR::Packer, I
>> expect. But read on.
>
> There is no problem with binary files, libraries, etc in PAR
> distributions.  As always the issue is taking the time to
> sort things out.  I expect the real issue might be the OpenGL
> module which is in process of being revised to no longer
> require build-time configuration which should fix many of
> the issues of package dependencies.
>
>>> if we can show that we can make the exe's possibly with Tk to have full
>>> functionality like MatLab, (that means trying to streamline a lot of
>>> code)
>>> then we can have a Open Source software where we can go into the code and
>>> get it to work the way we want, there we solve both ends of the needs 1.
>>> the
>>> need for it to work 2. to be able to get into the code and change what we
>>> want to change based on our ideas of functionality
>
> I second this.  Tk is not OpenGL friendly while Prima is.
> The current TriD infrastructure is planned to evolve to work
> with Prima while for win32 platform specific issues (no
> OpenGL widget support), Tk is not planned in the near
> term.
>
>> I may sound like a broken record here, but I would advocate for Prima over
>> Tk. In fact, I have a (very simple, somewhat hackish) GUI REPL built on
>> Prima and PDL that I would be willing to distribute, or at least try to
>> distribute. Perhaps I can play with this more later this week or over the
>> weekend. At any rate, it would be *really neat* to be able to post
>> downloadable executables on PDL's website that users could run on their
>> machines without having to install. If we could find a way to include an
>> unpackage/install onto the user's machine, kinda like a PAR LiveDisk, that
>> would be even cooler. But I need to learn to walk before I can run, as
>> they
>> say. :-)
>
> It would be nice if you could put some/all of your free PDL
> cycles between now and 01-Feb towards the PDL::Book and
> the PDL-2.4.10 release checkout especially as regards the
> web page and install info...
>
>> What are the command-line switches you use to pack your script? I just
>> glanced through the PAR::Packer docs, but it seems like many options are
>> possible and I'm not quite sure where to start.
>>
>>>
>>> And I have gotten the exe's to work on other computers using the same
>>> type
>>> of operating system (Windows 2008 at the moment only) if we want a one
>>> shot
>>> for all types of operating systems then we want to use C# am I right
>>> about
>>> that , as far as i know
>
> C/C++ are the languages of interest for PDL.  C# is far from
> being a platform portable or platform neutral language.
>
>> No, C# will not be necessary. PDL's guts are written in C, which is more
>> cross-platform and faster than C#. The only limitation with C is that it
>> must be compiled for the target machine, which in practice means we need
>> access to a working copy of that OS. As we need working copy to an OS in
>> order to test PDL anyway, this is not a limitation in practice.
>>
>>> ...snip...
>>
>> Lots of parentheses there. Everybody can already get at the underlying C
>> and
>> Perl code, so PAR::Packer will help with first-time users. BTW, I don't
>> see
>> us doing anything commercial with PDL any time soon. It would go somewhat
>> against the grain of PDL's style from the last 15 years.
>
> A company providing support and a fully-integrated PDL
> for interested customers would help in the sustainment
> of PDL.  Look at what the SciPy distribution has done
> for NumPy.
>
>>> ...snip...
>>
>> I'm skeptical about a support website. PDL's current line of support is
>> the
>> mailing lists and we don't get very many hits here from new users. I
>> wonder
>> how things might look if it were possible for people to send an email to
>> the
>> mailing list from our web site, though? Any web hackers want to give this
>> a
>> shot?
>
> There are real problems with that and spam attacks.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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