I have gotten the the core PDL functionallity to work with the PP PAR::packer
with the one exception of the
TriD.pm which throws some errors at me... if we can show that we can make the
exe's possibly with Tk
to have full functionality like MatLab, (that means trying to streamline a lot
of code)then we can have a Open Source
software where we can go into the code and get it to work the way we want,
there we solve both ends of the needs
1. the need for it to work 2. to be able to get into the code and change what
we want to change based on our ideas of functionality
And I have gotten the exe's to work on other computers using the same type of
operating system (Windows 2008 at the moment only)
if we want a one shot for all types of operating systems then we want to use C#
am I right about that , as far as i know
PDL is very important because of the way it allows you to use equations in text
book style way going from a text book
to software in a simple way, that's why I like it; for example with
Mathematica you have to follow a strict level
of how they want you to put in your code which forces you to adhere to there
Ideas of structure...
With PDL you can make your own structure which I think is very satisfying, and
allows you to make your code
according to a simpler theory..if you so desire
I hope to be working on these problems soon, to make a "Quantum Chemistry 3D
software" for Mac's Window's and Linuxes
and the ability for the user to go into the code ("which is C streamlined
with perl and PDL" in the future possibly C# )
(with the perl & PDL modules and open-source code will be free for any one to
use and you can build the exe with pp )
(The exception is with the compiled version which will have support, funded by
advertizing on the support's website)
There are many more possible software products that can be built that can have
a impact on our future for the advancement
of our technology and the sciences, this is just one example , so we can get
"PDL to survive" we just have to organize how we go about
getting it to have every thing that people need and the type of functionality
they want, and how to approach the full time
support problem with free open source software, and the costs involved...
I hope to have a preview of the support site by February 10 2012 I will let
every one know ...
Cheers
--Mark R Baker
________________________________
From: Joel Berger <[email protected]>
To: Chris Marshall <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Perldl] Getting What Is Missing
Chris et al.
I am working on a generic Alien:: framework called Alien::Base, hosted
at my gh:
https://github.com/jberger/Alien-Base .
I submitted a proposal to tpf a small grant, here is the text for the concept:
https://gist.github.com/1616923
Once this works, it should make Alien:: modules much easier to write.
Joel
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chris Marshall <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Clifford Sobchuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ...don't fully understand what they need to do? Even installing on Linux. I
>> have tried to build PDL from CPAN and I never get it right. The best way for
>> me is to do the apt-get install pdl and then go into cpan and do the upgrade
>> /PDL/. All of the dependencies are accounted when I do it this way. When I
>> install from cpan I always end up missing dependencies.
>
> Hi Cliff-
>
> Yes, the large number of external dependencies
> used by PDL to provide "full" functionality is an
> ongoing problem.
>
> The simplest way to install PDL on linux-ish
> systems having some sort of package manager
> is to use that to install PDL which should pull
> in packages for the needed external library
> and program dependencies. Then use CPAN
> to upgrade to the latest PDL.
>
> There has already been discussion and decision
> on using the Alien module approach to address
> this problem---just no one volunteering to write
> the needed Alien::NetPBM, Alien::PROJ4,...
> modules.
>
>> So am I the minority of target users (people who use PDL and don't have a
>> clue at how to create their own PP modules) in not being able to get it to
>> install from cpan directly? When I use R/scilab/matlab - I use modules when
>> ever I can because it would take me weeks more time to develop a script. On
>> the other hand if your target user is a C++/Perl expert, then please
>> disregard the above as it doesn't apply.
>
> I don't think PDL has a chance of surviving as an
> active and growing project unless we can make
> it possible for anyone to "just use" PDL. Without
> a 1-click install, easy interoperability, and good
> documentation all the non-C/Perl programmer
> scientists will be using Matlab/Octave, or NumPy,
> or ... instead.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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