Fabio -

Writing real books, both for PDL and for Prima, would be a monumental
effort. I think they would be well worth the effort, but just getting what
we have in PDL::Book was hard enough. The Prima community seems to be less
active than the PDL community, so I'm not sure if they have the tuits to
assemble a similar document. That is, their efforts are probably better
spent elsewhere.

Ultimately, getting an edited book needs to be part of a larger marketing
strategy for PDL. As it is, I am very happy that we have the PDF book that
we have, and I am turning my attention to getting App::Prima::REPL
user-ready. Once I feel that this interface has stabilized, then I might
turn my attention towards actual conversation with chromatic (at Onyx Neon)
to see what we would have to do just to get our book "in the door," so to
speak. However, this is far into the future, and I have many other things
keeping me busy before I ever get to that. If somebody else beats me to it,
that'd be great.

I expect that PDL::Graphics::Prima will draw these two communities closer
together and I hope that it, along with App::Prima::REPL, manages to grow
both communities. At this point, I think that your efforts to write a
series of blog entries targeted at users new to Prima is absolutely
perfect. We don't have the manpower to write a full-blown Prima::Book, but
your blog writing will give newcomers a gentle enough on-ramp that they
will be able to get started.

David

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Fabio D'Alfonso <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi,
> I have the PDL Book. It is a great effort, but with some oddities that are
> not simple to solve.
> It is a step forward, compared to Prima itself, where there is not
> something similar (ignoring the cited book about Tk).
>
> The point is not having the stuff printed, and having a cover. A book is
> something quite different to its content. Going to O'Reilly would mean a
> process of reading, proof reading, validating, rewiriting what is not
> consistent, reordering subjects in better ways, changing examples, adding
> images as needed, formatting the material to have in one page if the need
> to turn the page would be a problem for reading.
> Draft are read by people that validate that content in the perspective of
> the reader, and check the validity of the content.
> At least, this makes a book.
>
> A book is a job of authors and at least other 10 people.
> Yes it could be a great idea to contact O'Reilly, and the PDL Book could
> help very much. But Mastering PDL would be another thing.
>
>
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>  On 7/7/2012 3:27 PM, Joel Berger wrote:
>
>  What can save, in this sense, Prima is the avaialabilty of the "Mastering
> Perl/Tk", that shows many features in common with Prima (ot that Prima
> ported) as the geometry manager. For PDL there is nothing out there that can
> act in this way.
>
> So if one is looking for a marketing tool, that means creating the
> conditions to have a  book on the bookshelf.
>
>
>  I know that the PDLporters just finished at least a working copy of
> the PDL::Book; is you concern that it be "dead-tree available"? If so
> I'm sure they could shop it around, Oriellly or Onyx Neon come to
> mind.
>
> Joel
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