> Hi all,
> 
> Based on the past few days of posts, I'd like to open up a thorny issue:
> 
> Do we have a plotting package that installs smoothly across all three major 
> platforms?
> 
> I've been playing with python and matplotlib for a couple of months now, and 
> although the OO interface is a royal pain, at least I know I can send a 
> script to students/collaborators and it will just *work* for them.
> 
> I've seen that PLplot is throwing up errors for some people, and now we have 
> Gnuplot grumbling as well. PGPLOT is still difficult to install and not 
> interactive-friendly....
> 
> If we want more PDL adopters, we should pick a plotting system and put all 
> our energies in making that work flawlessly for a couple of years, so that 
> interested people don't get discouraged.
> 
> I also have a selfish reason - if we choose something other than PGPLOT, it 
> means a rewrite of the PDL Book, and I don't want to make the investment of 
> time if we suddenly decide that 'oops, $PLOTTING_SYSTEM isn't working 
> anymore/new shiny thing is the way to go'.
> 
> I'd be happy to get any plotting package working for the SciPDL Mac binary 
> working, if we get a general consensus here. 
> 
> Matt

i'm going to be an instigator again and point out that pgplot, plplot, and 
gnuplot are all ~20 year old pieces of legacy software.  at least gnuplot is 
actively maintained and evolving, but pgplot has hardly been touched in ~10 
years.  i've tried plplot a few times, but always ended up throwing up my hands 
after a short while.  maintaining dependencies with packages like these will 
always be a headache and will hold back adoption and evolution of PDL.  note 
that i haven't looking into prima at all, however.

tying back into the previous discussion about notebook-type interfaces like 
what ipython has i'd like to point out the existence of http://d3js.org/.  
ipython notebooks are great, but using matplotlib graphics within a browser is 
rather limiting.  integrating something like D3 opens up a lot more flexibility 
and capability.  a browser-based PDL shell that used D3 for plotting could be 
pretty kick butt....

tim

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