> 20 years old doesn't mean they're crap - but your point about legacy software 
> is a good one.

that they stick around and are used for ~20 years speaks to their utility, no 
doubt.  but it does mean they're set in their ways in a manner that will be 
slow and hard to change.  

> tying back into the previous discussion about notebook-type interfaces like 
> what ipython has i'd like to point out the existence of http://d3js.org/.  
> ipython notebooks are great, but using matplotlib graphics within a browser 
> is rather limiting.  integrating something like D3 opens up a lot more 
> flexibility and capability.  a browser-based PDL shell that used D3 for 
> plotting could be pretty kick butt....
> 
> 
> I use plotting packages for two things - making production quality figures 
> where I want fine grained control, and 'rough and ready' plots that allow me 
> to hack at data on the command line, like the python notebooks. 
> 
> d3js looks *beautiful* for interactive data, but probably a pain in the ass 
> for reproducible PDF output. What do you use for paper output?

it's not how i've been using it (real-time web plotting), but the output is SVG 
so there are ways to do it.  here's one example: 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12719486/d3-js-graphs-output-into-high-resolution-print-quality-files

once you get the SVG, you're home free in terms of making high quality print.  
it's getting the SVG free from the browser that might take some hacking.  

tim

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