Stephen,

I realized that I forgot to reply to your message about MTI vs. MTU for IMAP.

Even absent Ned's detailed note showing that most major e-mail providers already
mandate use of TLS for access, I would not see the Washington Post story as
evidence that we need to change IMAP (and POP?) to mandate _use_ of TLS. One reason is that these e-mail access protocols are used in enterprise environment where passive wiretapping often not considered a viable attack. Internal to the enterprise net there is usually a perception of adequate physical security. For external access, VPN use is usually mandated. If we mandated use of TLS with these protocols, and access was already protected by IPsec, it would seem overkill, and create possible PMTU
problems.

This is another example of why it's hard to justify MTU for protocols, independent of context. Ned's observations, and Joel's, suggest that when a service providers decide that security against passive wiretapping is a concern, they make use of it (eventually), irrespective of IETF mandates. It's disappointing that, as Ned noted, the providers elected to adopt a different port for this protected access, contrary to IETF specs. Maybe this shows that we're not always in the best position to decide the MTI details :-( .

Steve
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