OK, I’ll go ahead and do an -01 with a better introduction, which is
clearly needed.    Interested to hear what others think of Robin’s
privacy/confidentiality distinction.



On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Dave Crocker <d...@dcrocker.net> wrote:

> On 3/14/2015 2:27 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
> > This draft is trying to make general points that are orthogonal to any
> > particular technology, including:
> >
> > - Positive & negative privacy failures are asymmetrically harmful
> > - the right choices are hard to make, so just don't ask inexpert uses to
> > make them,
> > - the cost of privacy technologies is monotonically falling
>
>
> +1 to the nature and direction of this document.
>
> Especially for topics that are complex, poorly understood and/or are
> controversial, it can greatly help to discuss issues and tradeoffs in
> higher-level, non-technical terms.  I usually cast this as needing
> statement about functional benefits and detriments for users (end-users,
> operators, etc.)
>
> The summary bullets Tim provided, above, are worth adding to the
> document early, with the rest of document providing substance to them.
>
> If there is enough community difficulty in readily seeing the nature and
> benefit of this exercise -- I usually assume that when any one
> reasonable reader has that sort of problem, others will too -- we should
> probably find an example to add that distinguishes between this level of
> discussion and the lower-level type that IETF work typical deals with --
> and that ought to derive from these higher-level points.
>
> There might be an line of discussion to add to the document, namely
> tradeoffs and limitations of various technical approaches, especially
> popular ones.  For example, transport-level encryption has notable
> benefits, but the deficiencies seem to be absent from most IETF
> discussions, leaving very large holes in the creator/consumer path.
>
> d/
>
> --
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net
>



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