Thanks
adie
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I would check out some of the abstracts and resources from Tom Strange and
David Pinnegar on cold treatment for exact specifics. There are links on
museum pests under solutions. JTV
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Not all pests need the four hours for complete kill at four hours. I should
have been more specific. I know that a densely packed file box takes about 12
hours for the core to come to temp. JTV
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I am aware of that, but unless it’s a really small mass load, our freezer
operating at full blast almost always takes longer than four hours to drop the
temperature below -20C, which is the “kill point”. We do the best we can!
Helen
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Hi Joel and Helen
I seem to remember the four hours kill time but don’t have anything published
to refer to?
Any ideas where this may be published
We have not had reemergence
Adie
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The Temp dropping quickly within four hours is important to kill all life
stages before pest can develop "antifreeze like properties". Have you had any
issues with reemergence of pests in treated objects?
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Hello folks
mostly mixed organic materials and some composite ones
Ethnographic - wood, feathers, fur, cane etc
All are double wrapped and buffered where necessary with acid free tissue
balls/pads
bags are sealed with heat sealers and heavy-duty tape
Adie
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Wondering what types of objects are you freezing? We use -32 at 72 hrs. cold
then carefully remove and shelve nearby the freezer with a 24 Hr.
re-acclimation period. We have never seen any thermal shock issues. I would
think that the bags help with objects thawing a bit slow and even? Thoughts
anyone. JTV
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We usually just turn off the freezer and wait until it comes up to ambient
temperature with the freezer door closed. This takes about 24 hours, though we
don't go as cold as you. If, for some odd reason, the temp comes up too
quickly we'll bring up the temp in stages. So far no problems.
Alan
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:15 AM 'Adrian Doyle' via MuseumPests
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Morning folks,
we are trying to get some extra freezing done as we have lost time due to the
Covid epedemic.
Has anyone got any research on thaw times for freezing they are prepared to
share?
At the moment we have a rather long return to ambient from -35c / -30c
primarily to allow the objects to thaw slowly and prevent thermal shock but
would like the option to reduce this both in our manual operation and to change
our computer settings.
Note we do not open the freezer and handle the objects whilst frozen as a
precaution due to potential embrittlement.
our current programme is this
48 hours to reach -35c (or more if not met)
72 hours at -35c to treat
41 hours to defrost/thaw
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated
many thanks
Adie
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