Discussion will continue on the wiki page:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Forums_at_postgresql.com.au

Even though the discussion has moved I still intent to keep pushing the issues 
to a resolution. The wiki is not shelving the idea for another time.

On 23/11/2010, at 8:42 PM, Thom Brown wrote:

> On 22 November 2010 14:05, Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote:
>> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 16:54, Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote:
>>>> Elliot Chance wrote:
>>>>>> Also, if someone registers on the forum, do they get a major domo 
>>>>>> registration email? ?And if so, would this be set to receive no emails 
>>>>>> upon registration? ?I'm not clear as to how this step would work 
>>>>>> because, at the moment, mailing list subscribers have to subscribe on a 
>>>>>> list-by-list basis. ?So registration to the forum site wouldn't 
>>>>>> necessarily mean they'd want to join any particular mailing list. 
>>>>>> ?Similarly, could they unregister easily? ?And anyone who attempts to 
>>>>>> post to a mailing list they aren't subscribed to requires moderation, so 
>>>>>> we don't wish to exacerbate this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No they are not registered on the mailing list, but they actually don't 
>>>>> need to be, let me explain:
>>>>> 1. John Smith has a postgres related question and finds the forums, he 
>>>>> signs up and posts his question.
>>>>> 2. His post is then emailed to the mailing list under a generic 
>>>>> registered address like "mailingl...@postgresql.com.au"
>>>>> 3. Bob House reads Johns question on the mailing list and simply sends an 
>>>>> email reply.
>>>>> 4. The email reply is piped into the forum and matches the topic based on 
>>>>> the email subject (thats how it currently does it.)
>>>>> 5. John gets an email from phpBB along the lines of "Bob House has 
>>>>> replied to your post, click here" (all forums do this) he reads the 
>>>>> response and is happy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the best balance of no-fuss and expert response, keeping in mind 
>>>>> that:
>>>>> * John can still sign up to the mailing list like anyone else if he wants 
>>>>> to.
>>>>> * All of John's forums communications are in the postgres mailing list 
>>>>> archive now.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I think this is fine. ?We would need to be more careful that a
>>>> non-group _reply_ would now be going to a public place.
>>> 
>>> I doubt people will really remember that. However, the forums could be
>>> given a big disclaimer on posts saying that private replies may show
>>> up public, or it could even add it to the footer of the message (sure,
>>> nobody reads that, but at least we tried..)
>> 
>> Yes, that seems logical.
> 
> Elliot, it appears that there's been considerable input from various
> parties regarding the forums (bikeshedding in action), but it spans 3
> mailing list conversations.  You may wish to set up a wiki page to
> collate what has been discussed, proposed and agreed so far.  If you
> haven't used the wiki before, you will need to set up a community
> account if you don't already have one, which you can do so at
> http://www.postgresql.org/community/signup and then log in to the wiki
> located at http://wiki.postgresql.org/ .
> 
> This way, everyone can see the progress that's been made as it can be
> difficult to follow what has already been discussed.  Also, people can
> review what you believe has been decided to see if it sounds sane
> enough to actually follow.  Just a suggestion :)
> 
> And thanks for the effort you have already put into this.  I
> personally support such a development.
> 
> -- 
> Thom Brown
> Twitter: @darkixion
> IRC (freenode): dark_ixion
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