On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 03:25:49PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 08/28/2014 02:25 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: > > But the standard doesn't say anything about storing a time zone > > *name* or *abbreviation* -- it requires that it be stored as UTC > > with the *offset* (in hours and minutes). That makes it pretty > > close to what we have -- it's all about a difference in > > presentation. And as far as I can see it completely dodges the > > kinds of problems you're talking about. > > Except that an offset is not a timezone. This is why the spec behavior > was always academic crippleware, and why we abandoned it back in ~~7.2. > It does me no good at all to know that a timestamp is "offset -07:00": > that could be Mountain Time, Arizona Time, or Navajo Nation time, all of > which will behave differently when I add 2 months to them. > > Unless the only goal is to be compatible with some other DBMS, in which > case ... build an extension. > > On the other hand, I take partial responsibility for the mess which is > our data type naming. What we call timestamptz should just be > "timestamp", and whether or not it converts to local timezone on > retrieval should be a GUC setting. And the type we call "timestamp" > shouldn't exist. Hindsight is 20/20.
Well, the standard TIMESTAMP requires WITHOUT TIME ZONE, so I don't know how you would be standards-compliant without it. -- Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + Everyone has their own god. + -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers